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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 03:51 PM
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Wasn't throwing you under the bus there jpop, just noting his reference. Perhaps I should have stated it differently.

And the OD Off was my assumption when I ran the numbers in that thread, since I certainly could not see him running 37's with 3.73's and OD ON at freeway speeds. I specifically asked him to point out where my assumptions might be incorrect, and his only answer was something to the effect of I had no idea what his rpm's were. But most of us by now know that your charts are in fact pretty darn accurate.



If I regear to 5.13, when the overdrive disengages will the revs go too high with those gears. For example: if I try to pass and stomp on the gas pedal, when the tranny shifts out of overdrive will my RPMs go to 5000?
There is a notation on the charts telling you that they use OD (4th) on autos, and 6th gear on manuals. Be sure to use actual measured tire height also. For auto's, once you get the OD On (4th gear) rpm, you divide that number by .69 to get OD Off (3rd).

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2000rpm at 70 with OD On
divide by .69 to get OD Off
= 2898 at 70 with OD Off

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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by b5rider
Dumb question:
Are the rpm values stated for the tranny in overdrive? The overdrive gear in my auto is INCREDIBLY tall. So much so that it seems to lug the engine when it engages. If I regear to 5.13, when the overdrive disengages will the revs go too high with those gears. For example: if I try to pass and stomp on the gas pedal, when the tranny shifts out of overdrive will my RPMs go to 5000?
Yes, the numbers quoted are for OD.

The first thing is you will unlock the converter which will cause your rpms to spike 10-15%. A kick down or down shift from the .69 OD gear to the 1:1 3rd gear will spike your rpms another 40%.

One of the big things with having the appropriate gear set for your vehicle is having some level of power in reserve to deal with mild grades, headwinds and power to accelerate to pass someone without necessarily kicking down.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nthinuf
Wasn't throwing you under the bus there jpop, just noting his reference. Perhaps I should have stated it differently.
It's all good, didn't think you were throwing me under the bus. Just want to squash any thought of myself being a "self proclaimed expert". That is definitely not me and I have shied away from the term "expert" my entire career. I learn just as much about things on this forum as I espouse.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by nthinuf
There is a notation on the charts telling you that they use OD (4th) on autos, and 6th gear on manuals. Be sure to use actual measured tire height also. For auto's, once you get the OD On (4th gear) rpm, you divide that number by .69 to get OD Off (3rd).

ex
2000rpm at 70 with OD On
divide by .69 to get OD Off
= 2898 at 70 with OD Off
Don't forget you also unlock the converter which will spike the rpms 10-15% before the down shift.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mako159

I have a 2012 6sp unlimited, I went from 3.21's to 4.56's when I threw my 35's on.. I do all highway driving as well and it's perfect. It pulls hills without down shifting outta of 6th.. I usually run about 2500rpm's in 6th around 65mph.. Hope this helps..
Thanks I was just about to ask if anyone had this same setup and how they liked it. You the man
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JPop

Yes, the numbers quoted are for OD.

The first thing is you will unlock the converter which will cause your rpms to spike 10-15%. A kick down or down shift from the .69 OD gear to the 1:1 3rd gear will spike your rpms another 40%.

One of the big things with having the appropriate gear set for your vehicle is having some level of power in reserve to deal with mild grades, headwinds and power to accelerate to pass someone without necessarily kicking down.
Thanks. I assumed there wouldn't be a need to downshift as much with proper gearing. After all, that is the reason I would regear; to have the engine powerband match your speed.
For the record, I always give your answers more weight in forum discussions as you seem to carry more wisdom and impartiality in your responses.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by b5rider
For the record, I always give your answers more weight in forum discussions as you seem to carry more wisdom and impartiality in your responses.
Thanks, it's appreciated. Wisdom just comes from already having made mistakes, and I've made my share of them.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JPop
Don't forget you also unlock the converter which will spike the rpms 10-15% before the down shift.
Yeah, that's something that I don't know enough about to even bring it up. People would be asking me about the 5th gear I was referring to . But the numbers behind pushing the OD button in and out are easy for me to understand.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mako159
I have a 2012 6sp unlimited, I went from 3.21's to 4.56's when I threw my 35's on.. I do all highway driving as well and it's perfect. It pulls hills without down shifting outta of 6th.. I usually run about 2500rpm's in 6th around 65mph.. Hope this helps..
That's great info man, thanx!
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mako159
I have a 2012 6sp unlimited, I went from 3.21's to 4.56's when I threw my 35's on.. I do all highway driving as well and it's perfect. It pulls hills without down shifting outta of 6th.. I usually run about 2500rpm's in 6th around 65mph.. Hope this helps..
In line with what's in the FAQ.

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