4.56 vs 4.88
Wasn't throwing you under the bus there jpop, just noting his reference. Perhaps I should have stated it differently.
And the OD Off was my assumption when I ran the numbers in that thread, since I certainly could not see him running 37's with 3.73's and OD ON at freeway speeds. I specifically asked him to point out where my assumptions might be incorrect, and his only answer was something to the effect of I had no idea what his rpm's were. But most of us by now know that your charts are in fact pretty darn accurate.
There is a notation on the charts telling you that they use OD (4th) on autos, and 6th gear on manuals. Be sure to use actual measured tire height also. For auto's, once you get the OD On (4th gear) rpm, you divide that number by .69 to get OD Off (3rd).
ex
2000rpm at 70 with OD On
divide by .69 to get OD Off
= 2898 at 70 with OD Off
And the OD Off was my assumption when I ran the numbers in that thread, since I certainly could not see him running 37's with 3.73's and OD ON at freeway speeds. I specifically asked him to point out where my assumptions might be incorrect, and his only answer was something to the effect of I had no idea what his rpm's were. But most of us by now know that your charts are in fact pretty darn accurate.
If I regear to 5.13, when the overdrive disengages will the revs go too high with those gears. For example: if I try to pass and stomp on the gas pedal, when the tranny shifts out of overdrive will my RPMs go to 5000?
ex
2000rpm at 70 with OD On
divide by .69 to get OD Off
= 2898 at 70 with OD Off
Last edited by nthinuf; Jan 22, 2012 at 03:56 PM.
Dumb question:
Are the rpm values stated for the tranny in overdrive? The overdrive gear in my auto is INCREDIBLY tall. So much so that it seems to lug the engine when it engages. If I regear to 5.13, when the overdrive disengages will the revs go too high with those gears. For example: if I try to pass and stomp on the gas pedal, when the tranny shifts out of overdrive will my RPMs go to 5000?
Are the rpm values stated for the tranny in overdrive? The overdrive gear in my auto is INCREDIBLY tall. So much so that it seems to lug the engine when it engages. If I regear to 5.13, when the overdrive disengages will the revs go too high with those gears. For example: if I try to pass and stomp on the gas pedal, when the tranny shifts out of overdrive will my RPMs go to 5000?
The first thing is you will unlock the converter which will cause your rpms to spike 10-15%. A kick down or down shift from the .69 OD gear to the 1:1 3rd gear will spike your rpms another 40%.
One of the big things with having the appropriate gear set for your vehicle is having some level of power in reserve to deal with mild grades, headwinds and power to accelerate to pass someone without necessarily kicking down.
It's all good, didn't think you were throwing me under the bus. Just want to squash any thought of myself being a "self proclaimed expert". That is definitely not me and I have shied away from the term "expert" my entire career. I learn just as much about things on this forum as I espouse.
There is a notation on the charts telling you that they use OD (4th) on autos, and 6th gear on manuals. Be sure to use actual measured tire height also. For auto's, once you get the OD On (4th gear) rpm, you divide that number by .69 to get OD Off (3rd).
ex
2000rpm at 70 with OD On
divide by .69 to get OD Off
= 2898 at 70 with OD Off
ex
2000rpm at 70 with OD On
divide by .69 to get OD Off
= 2898 at 70 with OD Off
Originally Posted by Mako159
I have a 2012 6sp unlimited, I went from 3.21's to 4.56's when I threw my 35's on.. I do all highway driving as well and it's perfect. It pulls hills without down shifting outta of 6th.. I usually run about 2500rpm's in 6th around 65mph.. Hope this helps..
Originally Posted by JPop
Yes, the numbers quoted are for OD.
The first thing is you will unlock the converter which will cause your rpms to spike 10-15%. A kick down or down shift from the .69 OD gear to the 1:1 3rd gear will spike your rpms another 40%.
One of the big things with having the appropriate gear set for your vehicle is having some level of power in reserve to deal with mild grades, headwinds and power to accelerate to pass someone without necessarily kicking down.
For the record, I always give your answers more weight in forum discussions as you seem to carry more wisdom and impartiality in your responses.
. But the numbers behind pushing the OD button in and out are easy for me to understand.
That's great info man, thanx!



