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Old May 14, 2015 | 07:40 AM
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I have been running without a steering stabilizer for 4 years ever since the stock one was ripped off on a rock. I did start to get death wobble when my stock front track bar wore out but once I replaced that with an aftermarket one it has been all fine. I daily drive my Jeep over very rough city streets, on the freeway and where ever. If everything is set up correctly you don't really need a single let alone a dual stabilizer.
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Old May 14, 2015 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 101gargoyles

Dual-agree, don't do unless the ladies like 2
Needed-no agreement it's not there for free
Rod protection-not sealed but protected from direct abrasion therefore shielded by anything that works
Crash and burn-where did that come from

Drive your machine long enough and keep every component in good condition. You'll know the damper is pooched when you're driving about 60 on a corner going downhill changing lanes and hit a pot hole all at the same time. After you change your shorts and replace the damper you won't need to wash your shorts again. It's installed at the factory for geometry not for what if...
Explain the geometry part of it because I'm having a hard time seeing what it has anything to do with geometry.
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Old May 14, 2015 | 08:48 AM
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The wide track width dimension which is close to the short wheelbase length in a Jeep and a few other vehicles gets close to a square ground footprint. Excellent geometry for flat surfaces in tight maneuvers at low to mid speeds. Almost like a ball rolling. Now add an unforseen element. Ball will leave it's original path. Without a longer front/rear to side ratio of the footprint the directional steering components need to compensate more than most vehicles on the road. Steering damper helps prevent over activity of those components. Basic to advanced physics required. More needed on 2 doors than 4 with the longer wheelbase. Look around only a few types of vehicles have the damper. Why? Because they want to give you something for free? Not!
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Old May 14, 2015 | 08:58 AM
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Had a 72 kawi H2 750 2 stroke scariest thing I ever rode suspension sucked brakes sucked steering sucked.... And the motor, satanic! Miss that bike and apparently missed the whole point of this thread 😁
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Old May 14, 2015 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkeyfist
Had a 72 kawi H2 750 2 stroke scariest thing I ever rode suspension sucked brakes sucked steering sucked.... And the motor, satanic! Miss that bike and apparently missed the whole point of this thread ��
Oh man I hear you. I had a girl hanging off me like a flag in a hurricane and legs flapping in the air behind me once. Can't believe the little thing had the upper body strength to hang on as I opened up and left that cop with his jaw open on his chest at the light. Ah the good old 70's (google it kids)
And to think some folks above think I fell off the turnip truck yesterday.. What a hoot!

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Old May 14, 2015 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 101gargoyles
Dual-agree, don't do unless the ladies like 2
Needed-no agreement it's not there for free
Rod protection-not sealed but protected from direct abrasion therefore shielded by anything that works
Crash and burn-where did that come from

Drive your machine long enough and keep every component in good condition. You'll know the damper is pooched when you're driving about 60 on a corner going downhill changing lanes and hit a pot hole all at the same time. After you change your shorts and replace the damper you won't need to wash your shorts again. It's installed at the factory for geometry not for what if...
its not for geometry...

please tell me how the steering stabilizer does ANYTHIGN for steering geometry.

all it does is lessen the bump steer associated with a solid front diff. your jeep will drive JUST FINE without it.

and comparing a motor bike to a solid axle vehicle is like comparing apples to oranges...there is almost zero correlation other than the fact that hey are both fruit.

please stop giving advice you clearly have ZERO knowledge on.
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Old May 14, 2015 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 101gargoyles
The wide track width dimension which is close to the short wheelbase length in a Jeep and a few other vehicles gets close to a square ground footprint. Excellent geometry for flat surfaces in tight maneuvers at low to mid speeds. Almost like a ball rolling. Now add an unforseen element. Ball will leave it's original path. Without a longer front/rear to side ratio of the footprint the directional steering components need to compensate more than most vehicles on the road. Steering damper helps prevent over activity of those components. Basic to advanced physics required. More needed on 2 doors than 4 with the longer wheelbase. Look around only a few types of vehicles have the damper. Why? Because they want to give you something for free? Not!

your not understanding the point of the steering stabilizer.

the track bar and drag link, in conjunction with the height of the vehicle determine the geometry.

the stabilizer is there strictly to make up for how shitty of a design the steering system is. (has been this way for a long long time)

it is there to save money...so yes its free.

you need to do some research or perhaps talk to an engineer...because your are light years away from understanding it.
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Old May 14, 2015 | 12:15 PM
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All the cool guys that dont run a stabilizer come out :P
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Old May 14, 2015 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10
All the cool guys that dont run a stabilizer come out :P
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Old May 14, 2015 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10
$50 TF upgrade raised over the tie rod = done.
^^^^This really is spot on^^^^^^. Dual stabilizers are cool looking, but you could spend the extra money saved on other mods that will get you a better bang for the buck.

As to running without a SS, as those in the know know, if your suspension is setup correctly, you dont need to run one.

As to running without a front swaybar, offroad, its disconnected to enable more articulation on the axle. However, on road, you better have one, otherwise you will get to experience some severe body roll.

Good luck with your build.
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