Black Diamond and Nitto Mud Grapplers
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01-04-2008, 08:23 AM
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01-04-2008, 08:30 AM
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My Opinions
So far here is my opinions on the Black Diamond and 35" Nitto Mud Grappler.
Black Diamond Lift:
1. Rides MUCH better then stock
2. Actually gives you a 4 1/4" lift no just 3"
3. Complete kit didn't need anything extra to buy
Nitto Mud Grappelrs:
1. LOOK AMAZNIG
2. Have a hum to them... but makes you feel like a man (must be a jeep thing)
3. Build quailty is amazing and very durable.
Black Diamond Lift:
1. Rides MUCH better then stock
2. Actually gives you a 4 1/4" lift no just 3"
3. Complete kit didn't need anything extra to buy
Nitto Mud Grappelrs:
1. LOOK AMAZNIG
2. Have a hum to them... but makes you feel like a man (must be a jeep thing)
3. Build quailty is amazing and very durable.
01-04-2008, 08:33 AM
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01-04-2008, 12:12 PM
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JK Super Freak
I have the Black Diamond 3" lift on my Rubicon Unlimited, but not the Nitto tires.
With the lift I added the XTreme Terrain Controls Arms and Read Adjustable Track Bar. Put on a set of 4 Rancho 9000XL adjustable shocks too.
Now, the trouble with measuring "lift" is where the measurement(s) are taken. In my case, I did before and after measurements at the front of the front fender, the back of the rear fender, and at the front door entry sill. Like most of the other posts, I saw 4 5/8" of lift at the front. But, I saw only 2" at the rear, and exactly 3" at the door!! So, is my lift 4 5/8", 2", or 3"???
Actually, Black Diamond (SuperLift) is quite forward on stating their lift height is at the door.
Most lifts will do what they can to remove the rake. In my case, the 2 5/8" difference front-to-back makes the Rubi look dead-level. Actually, it's more than looks - I also measured front and rear on my rock rails. After lift they measure exactly the same height.
Edit: The issue of what exactly is the lift height bothered me so much I started a new thread:
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/modified-jk-tech-2/lift-measurement-standardization-24557/
With the lift I added the XTreme Terrain Controls Arms and Read Adjustable Track Bar. Put on a set of 4 Rancho 9000XL adjustable shocks too.
Now, the trouble with measuring "lift" is where the measurement(s) are taken. In my case, I did before and after measurements at the front of the front fender, the back of the rear fender, and at the front door entry sill. Like most of the other posts, I saw 4 5/8" of lift at the front. But, I saw only 2" at the rear, and exactly 3" at the door!! So, is my lift 4 5/8", 2", or 3"???
Actually, Black Diamond (SuperLift) is quite forward on stating their lift height is at the door.
Most lifts will do what they can to remove the rake. In my case, the 2 5/8" difference front-to-back makes the Rubi look dead-level. Actually, it's more than looks - I also measured front and rear on my rock rails. After lift they measure exactly the same height.
Edit: The issue of what exactly is the lift height bothered me so much I started a new thread:
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/modified-jk-tech-2/lift-measurement-standardization-24557/
Last edited by AZJeeper; 01-04-2008 at 12:20 PM.
