Break over angle question
12-07-2013, 06:19 PM
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Break over angle question
Which part of the unlimited hits the top of the mound when going over? Is it the sides of the tub? Will a lift cure this or is it the tire height that will?
12-07-2013, 06:38 PM
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Get some rock rail/sliders and some skid plates. I have Ace rock rails and Evo ProTek skid plates and they have a lot of scratches and gouges. Well spent money in by opinion. Not protecting your rocker panels is expensive and unsightly. A lift will also help. And taller tires will get you axles slightly higher unless you go big.
12-07-2013, 06:40 PM
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Your frame rails will hit. Either bigger tires or a lift will increase the break-over clearance. Most people opt for a combination of both.
12-07-2013, 08:52 PM
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Taller tires raise the axles as well as the frame/body, but you only gain 1/2 of the added height. (32" to 35", 3" total height difference for a 1.5" actual gain)
Taller coils/spacers only lift the frame/body, but give the full height gain under the belly.
But, if you get a lift, you will want bigger tires to fill the gaps. And if you get bigger tires, you will want a lift to keep them from rubbing. So just bite the bullet and get both...
12-09-2013, 06:04 AM
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Lift or Tires or Both will help with break over. I went lift first and ran it for a year and a half before I got tires. It looks silly running stockers but it works.
12-09-2013, 08:39 AM
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4 door plus a low lift = hitting skids...you name the skid, and I've hit it. The gas tanks skid, Auto tranny pan skid, LCA skids and even my evap canister skid have all taken hits.
My lift is a 2.5 RK lift with 35s on my JKUR. I've hit rocks on the side of the ACE tubes, the bottom...nothing on the top
If you don't have rubi rails, and don't mind drilling, then I WOULD have gotten some Evo skids, or some Tera skids...something that mounts up higher to the rocker panels. Having the Rubi Rails and wanting a place to step...I like my ACE skids.
PS: Get the LCA skids if you don't have those. I hit those most of all in the Colorado Rockies...
To specifically answer the question. The gas tank skid and tranny skid hit on mine.
My lift is a 2.5 RK lift with 35s on my JKUR. I've hit rocks on the side of the ACE tubes, the bottom...nothing on the top
If you don't have rubi rails, and don't mind drilling, then I WOULD have gotten some Evo skids, or some Tera skids...something that mounts up higher to the rocker panels. Having the Rubi Rails and wanting a place to step...I like my ACE skids.PS: Get the LCA skids if you don't have those. I hit those most of all in the Colorado Rockies...
To specifically answer the question. The gas tank skid and tranny skid hit on mine.
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12-09-2013, 08:47 AM
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4 door plus a low lift = hitting skids...you name the skid, and I've hit it. The gas tanks skid, Auto tranny pan skid, LCA skids and even my evap canister skid have all taken hits.
My lift is a 2.5 RK lift with 35s on my JKUR. I've hit rocks on the side of the ACE tubes, the bottom...nothing on the top If you don't have rubi rails, and don't mind drilling, then I WOULD have gotten some Evo skids, or some Tera skids...something that mounts up higher to the rocker panels. Having the Rubi Rails and wanting a place to step...I like my ACE skids.
PS: Get the LCA skids if you don't have those. I hit those most of all in the Colorado Rockies...
My lift is a 2.5 RK lift with 35s on my JKUR. I've hit rocks on the side of the ACE tubes, the bottom...nothing on the top
If you don't have rubi rails, and don't mind drilling, then I WOULD have gotten some Evo skids, or some Tera skids...something that mounts up higher to the rocker panels. Having the Rubi Rails and wanting a place to step...I like my ACE skids.PS: Get the LCA skids if you don't have those. I hit those most of all in the Colorado Rockies...
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12-09-2013, 09:00 AM
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Get a 2"-3" lift( any bigger costs a lot more to do) plus a little taller tire, and some sturdy rocker protection ( I use Shrockworks ) I also added a Poison Spyder evap skid. If you learn to take the right line for the wheelbase you won't drag bottom that much. Obviously- if you plan to do serious rock crawling you need more lift, more tire, more skids, MORE MONEY......
12-09-2013, 09:28 AM
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Easy answer is to look under your jeep. The tub is not the lowest part. If you do not want to hit anything underneath then the answer is to lift your jeep higher and as was pointed out a combination of lift and tire height is the correct answer (or flat belly the bottom but thats probably way more than what you are looking for in terms of time money and techincal expertise).
Depening on the wheeling you do though, lift height and bigger tires reaches a point of deminishing returns and there is always going to be a situation where your bigger tires and lift height wont be enough to overcome the potential for hitting underneath.
In general you will find the common range for jeep lift/ tires to be 2.5''-4'' of lift and 33''-37'' of tire height. What you choose will be based on what you like looks wise, what you can afford, and the wheeling you do.
Some might suggest just getting better skids but you can get the best skids avaialble and all that means is you have a greater potential for avoiding damage but you will still be high centered sitting on your belly so the better answer is not to be high centered in the first place which means getting the belly off the ground.
If you dont have immediate plans of doing real technical trails get a budget boost. Its cheap and will get your belly up. Use that for a while and it may solve all your problems forever. If you find you are still getting hung up, throw on some taller tires. If you are still getting hung up, then you are doing trails which have requirements near the taller range indicated above but you should already have a good idea where you sit in that range. Good luck!
Depening on the wheeling you do though, lift height and bigger tires reaches a point of deminishing returns and there is always going to be a situation where your bigger tires and lift height wont be enough to overcome the potential for hitting underneath.
In general you will find the common range for jeep lift/ tires to be 2.5''-4'' of lift and 33''-37'' of tire height. What you choose will be based on what you like looks wise, what you can afford, and the wheeling you do.
Some might suggest just getting better skids but you can get the best skids avaialble and all that means is you have a greater potential for avoiding damage but you will still be high centered sitting on your belly so the better answer is not to be high centered in the first place which means getting the belly off the ground.
If you dont have immediate plans of doing real technical trails get a budget boost. Its cheap and will get your belly up. Use that for a while and it may solve all your problems forever. If you find you are still getting hung up, throw on some taller tires. If you are still getting hung up, then you are doing trails which have requirements near the taller range indicated above but you should already have a good idea where you sit in that range. Good luck!
12-09-2013, 09:32 AM
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silly over long 4 doors and there breakover angles... You get more clearance youll just find bigger things to drag on. Rock rails are a must if your crawling imo.