Dana 30 Locker
Edit: I guess 235 isn't mighty for some people. but adding that on to the 800 for the locker makes it mighty for a college student haha!
Last edited by sbaglin; Dec 10, 2007 at 07:35 PM.
I have done some more resurch, and I have decided to go with the OX shiftable locker. The aussie locker works if you are not going to do a lot of hard crawling. The aussie (from what I have found and bean told by other people) is basicaly a very good Limmeted slip, so if you get one wheel off the ground there is a good chance it will unlock becasue of the lack of resistance on that wheel. also I have bean told that it dosent work well with the traction control (freeks it out).
so for $800 bucks to have a locker that I can shift on and off I think it's worth it. and the OX is suposably the strogest shiftable locker there is. and you don't have to drill into your case, or worry about electrical or air line/compresor problems.
so for $800 bucks to have a locker that I can shift on and off I think it's worth it. and the OX is suposably the strogest shiftable locker there is. and you don't have to drill into your case, or worry about electrical or air line/compresor problems.
I have done some more resurch, and I have decided to go with the OX shiftable locker. The aussie locker works if you are not going to do a lot of hard crawling. The aussie (from what I have found and bean told by other people) is basicaly a very good Limmeted slip, so if you get one wheel off the ground there is a good chance it will unlock becasue of the lack of resistance on that wheel. also I have bean told that it dosent work well with the traction control (freeks it out).
so for $800 bucks to have a locker that I can shift on and off I think it's worth it. and the OX is suposably the strogest shiftable locker there is. and you don't have to drill into your case, or worry about electrical or air line/compresor problems.
so for $800 bucks to have a locker that I can shift on and off I think it's worth it. and the OX is suposably the strogest shiftable locker there is. and you don't have to drill into your case, or worry about electrical or air line/compresor problems.
No, what I'm saying is that coverting to manual hubs isn't much cheaper.
Yeah - Ox Locker makes a D30 version for the JK.
A compressor is good to have anyway though...it helps when you need to air up, or reset a blown bead, fire off a set of air horns, etc.
A compressor is good to have anyway though...it helps when you need to air up, or reset a blown bead, fire off a set of air horns, etc.
I have done some more resurch, and I have decided to go with the OX shiftable locker. The aussie locker works if you are not going to do a lot of hard crawling. The aussie (from what I have found and bean told by other people) is basicaly a very good Limmeted slip, so if you get one wheel off the ground there is a good chance it will unlock becasue of the lack of resistance on that wheel. also I have bean told that it dosent work well with the traction control (freeks it out).
so for $800 bucks to have a locker that I can shift on and off I think it's worth it. and the OX is suposably the strogest shiftable locker there is. and you don't have to drill into your case, or worry about electrical or air line/compresor problems.
so for $800 bucks to have a locker that I can shift on and off I think it's worth it. and the OX is suposably the strogest shiftable locker there is. and you don't have to drill into your case, or worry about electrical or air line/compresor problems.
Yeah - the people you are speaking to do not know what they are talking about in this regard, despite no doubt being geniuses in all other regards etc. 
The Aussie can let one tire go faster, but it never lets the other tire go slower....so BOTH tires are always under power, and turning.
That way...you can go around turns, but, you do not end up with one tire sitting there doing nothing except laughing at its spinning brethren
, etc.
Limited Slips are always locked, but have a break-a-way torque that unlocks them...so that in a straight line, the two sides are turning in unison.
If you go around a turn...the outside tire has to go faster, just like a runner on the outside lane has to go faster around the track, etc.
The stress on the drivetrain builds, as the tires want to turn at the same rate, but...the inside tires is gaining on the outside tire, because the inside tire has a shorter route...and the drivetrain starts winding up, the tires get tension between themselves, etc....
If it STAYS locked, the tires will eventually skip, chatter around the turn, chirp, or some other release of tension, to let the outside tire catch up, etc.
Most LSD's just let go when the forces reach the point where a chirp, etc, might occur...that's their break a way torque...
When they let go...the diff simply pushes the outside tire around the turn, and the inside tire is simply dragged along for the ride.
If you are turning a shopping cart to the left, you will naturally push the outside, right side, to the left...rather than trying to PULL the inside left corner of the cart to the left...that's harder to do, etc.
The diff does the same thing...it just pushes the outside of the turn around.
It KNOWS its the outside of the turn, because the outside tire is going faster. (DOH)
Off road, well, it STILL "knows" that the faster tire is needed to push you around that turn, and it lets that damn inside tire get dragged along for the ride again.
Unfortunately, off road, you might have that "outside" tire in mud, or hung in mid-air...
So the hung tire goes faster to get you around the "turn", and the inside tire is dragged along for the ride (At ZERO MPH)...as the "Outside" Tire, hanging in mid air, is not getting much traction.

So - that's the difference between the LSD and the Aussie Locker.

The Aussie can let one tire go faster, but it never lets the other tire go slower....so BOTH tires are always under power, and turning.
That way...you can go around turns, but, you do not end up with one tire sitting there doing nothing except laughing at its spinning brethren
, etc.Limited Slips are always locked, but have a break-a-way torque that unlocks them...so that in a straight line, the two sides are turning in unison.
If you go around a turn...the outside tire has to go faster, just like a runner on the outside lane has to go faster around the track, etc.
The stress on the drivetrain builds, as the tires want to turn at the same rate, but...the inside tires is gaining on the outside tire, because the inside tire has a shorter route...and the drivetrain starts winding up, the tires get tension between themselves, etc....
If it STAYS locked, the tires will eventually skip, chatter around the turn, chirp, or some other release of tension, to let the outside tire catch up, etc.
Most LSD's just let go when the forces reach the point where a chirp, etc, might occur...that's their break a way torque...
When they let go...the diff simply pushes the outside tire around the turn, and the inside tire is simply dragged along for the ride.
If you are turning a shopping cart to the left, you will naturally push the outside, right side, to the left...rather than trying to PULL the inside left corner of the cart to the left...that's harder to do, etc.
The diff does the same thing...it just pushes the outside of the turn around.
It KNOWS its the outside of the turn, because the outside tire is going faster. (DOH)
Off road, well, it STILL "knows" that the faster tire is needed to push you around that turn, and it lets that damn inside tire get dragged along for the ride again.
Unfortunately, off road, you might have that "outside" tire in mud, or hung in mid-air...
So the hung tire goes faster to get you around the "turn", and the inside tire is dragged along for the ride (At ZERO MPH)...as the "Outside" Tire, hanging in mid air, is not getting much traction.

So - that's the difference between the LSD and the Aussie Locker.
Last edited by TEEJ; Dec 11, 2007 at 07:07 PM.
well then by all this great logic ( I'm not saying your wrong sbout the Aussie locker) if it alows the lock to slip on corners to keep the tires from skiping or skiding than whats to stop it from doing the same thing when one tire is off the ground? maybe it dosent stop the tire thats on the ground, but it still dosent keep both tires turning at the same speed. If you sont have both tires turning at the same speed than youare reducing your crawling ability. The whole reasoning behind useing lockers is so both tires always turn at the same speed so if one comes off the ground than you don't loose speed or grip.
If the Aussie alows the tires to turn at differnt speeds than you looe the ability to crawl.
and if the Aussie was as good as an actual locker than why would anyone buy a real locker?
If the Aussie alows the tires to turn at differnt speeds than you looe the ability to crawl.
and if the Aussie was as good as an actual locker than why would anyone buy a real locker?


