The DEATH WOBBLE database
I now know that it is the front end in my case. I had a passenger hang out the Jeep and look at the tires. The wheels wobble so bad that they come out of the fender flares. The passenger loved it but was scared to drive it so I could look at it.
I would love to stick a camera down there and video it but I am afraid that the wobble would take out the camera.
I would love to stick a camera down there and video it but I am afraid that the wobble would take out the camera.
1. Year and Model
2007 X Wranger
2. Current Mileage
53,500
3. Approx mileage when DW started
30,000
4. Suspension (OEM, etc. Make sure you list all components like AM trac bar, CAs)
Bone Stock
4. Wheel/Tires/spacers
Bone Stock
5. What measures you have taken to resolve DW
Replaced completely blown steering stabilizer and DW went away and hasn't returned
6. What was the"fix" or are you still dealing with it
Steering Stabilizer
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2007 X Wranger
2. Current Mileage
53,500
3. Approx mileage when DW started
30,000
4. Suspension (OEM, etc. Make sure you list all components like AM trac bar, CAs)
Bone Stock
4. Wheel/Tires/spacers
Bone Stock
5. What measures you have taken to resolve DW
Replaced completely blown steering stabilizer and DW went away and hasn't returned
6. What was the"fix" or are you still dealing with it
Steering Stabilizer
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Ha, ha...I did the same thing. Actually had my boss hang out the window and tell me what it looked like. When he came back in he was all white. I don't think he believed me when I told him how bad it was. I was telling him how some folks were continuing to doubt if it was really "death wobble." I tell you what, it put the fear of god into him and he absolutely believes it is nothing but death wobble. I don't care what its called, I just want it gone.
1. Year and Model
Unlimited Rubicon 2008
2. Current Mileage
31000 KM
3. Approx mileage when DW started
25000 KM
4. Suspension (OEM, etc. Make sure you list all components like AM trac bar, CAs)
RC 4" lift (2.2 shocks), Teraflex front control arms, trac bar relocation bracket, dropped pitman arm
4. Wheel/Tires/spacers
Rubi wheels and tires
5. What measures you have taken to resolve DW
I bought a torque wrench and titghted the trac bar at 130 lbs
I put the Caster to 5.1 degree (3.2 degree before)
6. What was the"fix" or are you still dealing with it
No DW anymore
Unlimited Rubicon 2008
2. Current Mileage
31000 KM
3. Approx mileage when DW started
25000 KM
4. Suspension (OEM, etc. Make sure you list all components like AM trac bar, CAs)
RC 4" lift (2.2 shocks), Teraflex front control arms, trac bar relocation bracket, dropped pitman arm
4. Wheel/Tires/spacers
Rubi wheels and tires
5. What measures you have taken to resolve DW
I bought a torque wrench and titghted the trac bar at 130 lbs
I put the Caster to 5.1 degree (3.2 degree before)
6. What was the"fix" or are you still dealing with it
No DW anymore
Last edited by Yoda; Mar 26, 2009 at 06:49 PM.
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From: Christiana, Tennessee, United States, United States
1. Year and Model:
2008 X Unlimited 4x4
2. Current Mileage:
20,000
3. Approx mileage when DW started:
5 miles after the lift was put on (approx 8,000 miles ago)
4. Suspension (OEM, etc. Make sure you list all components like AM trac bar, CAs):
TF 2.5 BB otherwise stock
4. Wheel/Tires/spacers:
Stock wheels and tires
5. What measures you have taken to resolve DW:
Re-torqued the front and rear trackbars to 125 ft-lbs - DW still there
Checked the ball joints - DW still there
control arm bolts to 125 ft-lbs - DW still there
3 trips to the dealer and they have :
replaced the steering stabalizer 3 times ( yes i told them this was not the prob)
3 alignments
3 rotates and balances
new OEM track bar
6. What was the"fix" or are you still dealing with it
Nothing so far
When i picked it yesterday from the dealer the service number told me that after talking to the owner and chrysler they said that due to the lift the steering geometry is off and that they will not do any more work until I do one of two things :
1: get an upgraded SS and another track bar to center my front axel
2: remove the lift and put it back to stock suspension.
2008 X Unlimited 4x4
2. Current Mileage:
20,000
3. Approx mileage when DW started:
5 miles after the lift was put on (approx 8,000 miles ago)
4. Suspension (OEM, etc. Make sure you list all components like AM trac bar, CAs):
TF 2.5 BB otherwise stock
4. Wheel/Tires/spacers:
Stock wheels and tires
5. What measures you have taken to resolve DW:
Re-torqued the front and rear trackbars to 125 ft-lbs - DW still there
Checked the ball joints - DW still there
control arm bolts to 125 ft-lbs - DW still there
3 trips to the dealer and they have :
replaced the steering stabalizer 3 times ( yes i told them this was not the prob)
3 alignments
3 rotates and balances
new OEM track bar
6. What was the"fix" or are you still dealing with it
Nothing so far
When i picked it yesterday from the dealer the service number told me that after talking to the owner and chrysler they said that due to the lift the steering geometry is off and that they will not do any more work until I do one of two things :
1: get an upgraded SS and another track bar to center my front axel
2: remove the lift and put it back to stock suspension.
1. Year and Model
2007 X Wranger Unlimited
2. Current Mileage
~57,000
3. Approx mileage when DW started
~50,000
4. Suspension (OEM, etc. Make sure you list all components like AM trac bar, CAs)
Teraflex 3" with full flexarm and HD forged front trackbar
4. Wheel/Tires/spacers
315/70/17 BFG AT. M/T Classic II rims.
5. What measures you have taken to resolve DW
Replaced worn balljoints - seemed to help, but not cure
Replaced Drag-link with Rockkrawler HD unit - cured about 50% of DW
Replaced Tie Rod with Rockkrawler HD Unit - Cured the rest of the problem
6. What was the"fix" or are you still dealing with it?
Fix was most likely a combo of worn stock joints. Death wobble hasn't returned with at least 4,000 miles on this setup. Hopefully someone will make some good ball joints for these axels.
2007 X Wranger Unlimited
2. Current Mileage
~57,000
3. Approx mileage when DW started
~50,000
4. Suspension (OEM, etc. Make sure you list all components like AM trac bar, CAs)
Teraflex 3" with full flexarm and HD forged front trackbar
4. Wheel/Tires/spacers
315/70/17 BFG AT. M/T Classic II rims.
5. What measures you have taken to resolve DW
Replaced worn balljoints - seemed to help, but not cure
Replaced Drag-link with Rockkrawler HD unit - cured about 50% of DW
Replaced Tie Rod with Rockkrawler HD Unit - Cured the rest of the problem
6. What was the"fix" or are you still dealing with it?
Fix was most likely a combo of worn stock joints. Death wobble hasn't returned with at least 4,000 miles on this setup. Hopefully someone will make some good ball joints for these axels.
Interesting that you ball joints, tie rod, and drag link were the cause. I feel like mine could be related to one or all of those things, as....well....I'm running out of options! Did you notice wear or something with the drag link and tie rod, or did you just take a shot? Also, were there any symptoms of your death wobble....like the feeling of loose, vibrating wheels after hitting divets or bumps (even when not death wobbling)? Mine has this at any speed. Then, when the conditions are right, this is the trigger of my death wobble.
Last edited by Finn; Mar 27, 2009 at 11:31 AM.
Finn,
I noticed all the symptoms you described. I could see some play in the draglink, so I took a chance with rockkrawler. The new unit was really beefy and helped, so I took a chance and ordered the tie rod shortly afterward, even though I could not visibly see any play. The tie rod fixed the problem and my front end is rock solid again.
I noticed all the symptoms you described. I could see some play in the draglink, so I took a chance with rockkrawler. The new unit was really beefy and helped, so I took a chance and ordered the tie rod shortly afterward, even though I could not visibly see any play. The tie rod fixed the problem and my front end is rock solid again.


