Delayed throttle response
I noticed the lag more with automatics, particarly when doing a rolling turn and trying to accelerate on the new road... real delay in response. I drove several automatics when I was looking to buy a JK. I stuck with the MT6 because I feel like I can shift around the lag. But the six still has a labored feel at low RPM, as if the Gerbels are trying to get in sync on the wheel or something.
No, the superchips tune does not help with the lag that you sometimes feel between shifts. It does improve throttle sensativity. But I believe the issue with the hesitation that is felt around 2,000 RPM, especially for 6 speed owners after a shift, is related to the ECU severely retarding the ignition timing for some reason.
I think we're talking about 2 different things here. The flashpaq (which I've owned for a very long time now and am very happy with) does improve throttle response. But there is a definate hesitation around 2,000 RPM when going from off-throttle to on-throttle that I believe has nothing to do with the electronic throttle. That hesitation was there before the flashpaq (i.e. stock) and after. There have been a lot of threads about this hesitation, mostly from 6 speed owners.
The hesitation does not happen 100% of the time, and I notice I get it a lot more when it's hot outside. I've been watching several engine parameters and when it occurs it looks like there is a large reduction in timing advance (like 20 degrees).
If you have an auto you may not notice the problem that I'm talking about. Also I wonder if Chrylser ever addressed this in later models. So if you don't have the dreaded 2K RPM hesitation it may be because chrysler made a change at some point.
Maybe I'll start a poll so we can figure out who experiences it and who doesn't.
Last edited by Doc_D; Jul 19, 2010 at 03:56 AM.
What is being described sounds a lot like the PCM torque management. Basically putting a pillow between the hammer of lower end torque by retarding timing to lessen wear and tear on driveline components.
I have an 09 MT6 with 5k miles on it and I am having the same problem. MIne will come to a complete stop at times and then take off. (mainly in an off road sit with heavy torque). Also any one else having a problem with the engine not reving down between shifts? I have tried to change shift points etc.
Good call JPop! I've also been wondering if it's torque management. I know this is a very popular scheme lately with manufacturers. I heard the new Camaros are picking up something like 1 second in the quarter mile when the tuner removes the torque management.
That would definately explain the serious reduction in ignition timing with no corresponding knock event.
I wonder if this is something Superchips could possibly remove.
Good call JPop! I've also been wondering if it's torque management. I know this is a very popular scheme lately with manufacturers. I heard the new Camaros are picking up something like 1 second in the quarter mile when the tuner removes the torque management.
That would definately explain the serious reduction in ignition timing with no corresponding knock event.
I wonder if this is something Superchips could possibly remove.
That would definately explain the serious reduction in ignition timing with no corresponding knock event.
I wonder if this is something Superchips could possibly remove.
Here's the post that references it.
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...39#post1833239



