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Disabling TPMS? It is possible?

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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BaltChief
This is not a great picture... but you can see how it fits in the wheel.....some new rims don't allow the tire to fit with the sensor in there too.
The site you got that picture from has a good article on TPMS:

http://tireindustry.org/features/TPMS.asp

Highlights:

General Motors had a representative attend the Tires at Two seminar for TPMS during the Performance Tires & Wheels/SEMA Show and he provided everyone, including myself, with valuable information. He made an excellent point when he commented that from the standpoint ofGM, it's in their best interest for independent tire dealers to have the correct information on TPMS because it ultimately affects customer satisfaction with a new vehicle purchase.
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Standardization is on the way with Daimler/Chrysler being the first major automotive manufacturer to introduce a universal TPMS platform with only two different sensors, two different grommet/o-ring kits, and no recalibration (the system resets itself automatically). Siemens VDO, an original equipment supplier of valve stem sensors that developed this technology, has been working with TIA for a couple of years to introduce a valve stem TPMS that is technician friendly, and early reports suggest it was successful.
and my favorite:

The TIA member price for one kit is $150, or about the cost of one sensor.
Looks like we got the best of the best (worst?) on our Jeeps. Can anybody confirm that the costs of these sensors is really $150? That seems ridiculously high for something with a few small pieces of silicon and a battery that is produced in the millions. I'm headed to the dealer today. I'll ask the parts guy how much a TPMS sensor is while I'm there.

Here's another interesting post on tracking vehicles using their TPMS sensors from a leading security consultant:

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archive...ng_automo.html

-Glen

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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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BUMP! Can anyone shed more light on this? Need to know info prior to having my tires mounted.
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 03:31 AM
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I purchased my JK in June 2007, some say I don't have TPMS. Can I tell by looking at the valve stem, still have the stock tires on the Jeep?
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 04:32 AM
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Some of yall ain't gettin this. It is FEDERAL LAW that they be installed. Just like the dude on the thread about wantin to snatch his converters off. You'll have a hard time selling it or trading it in if you ever decide to.
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RedneckJeep
Some of yall ain't gettin this. It is FEDERAL LAW that they be installed. Just like the dude on the thread about wantin to snatch his converters off. You'll have a hard time selling it or trading it in if you ever decide to.
x2....it will never pass inspection without them.
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BaltChief
x2....it will never pass inspection without them.
CHA CHING!!!! ....and THAT'S reason to keep them operating whether you keep the Jeep or not.
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RedneckJeep
CHA CHING!!!! ....and THAT'S reason to keep them operating whether you keep the Jeep or not.
What about the rest of us that live in states that don't have inspections? I don't have to worry about passing anything
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by def9112
What about the rest of us that live in states that don't have inspections? I don't have to worry about passing anything
Try to trade it in. Sure they will take it, but charge you an arm and a leg to get it back to "Legal" status. I am not sure about laws regarding selling to an individual. A dealer however can't sell or resell anything 2008 or beyond without the TPMS system in place.
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 05:36 AM
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You can make the ABS based system detect any number of low tires if you calibrate them with a GPS chip like the one in a cell phone. Problem is, people are even more paranoid about GPS chips than they are about RF chips. Funny too because currently the GPS chips are much cheaper than the TPMS set. The TPMS, insurance, and safety (insurance) interests did a nice job of lobbying to get this into federal law.

There is always this assumption that passenger vehicles are safe to drive, and the "safer" we make them the safer the activity is. The fact is cars (or Jeeps) are not safe to drive. Over 30,000 people die every year on the roadways in the US alone. You can make a pretty good list of dangerous things people do that are much safer. You can also make a nice list of things people refuse to do that are much safer.

As we take more responsibility away from the user for their vehicle, the more isolated they become from the real risk. Problem is, many vehicle owners will hop in a car knowing it has a very low tire and drive away anyway.

Then there is the problem, that some safety features in the past have been shown to significantly reduce death in vehicles. Such as seat belts and collapsible steering columns. But as we add more and more safety features we are saving fewer and fewer people.
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 06:08 AM
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So if my left front tire is a little low on air they're gonna fail me? c'mon!
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