tried looking and no luck....so get off your soap box and go do something useful.

 

Well good to hear you wear your seatbelt and helmet to protect yourself but there might be something being missed here.
Go nuts enjoy your ride...hope we don't read about anything in the papers.
Thanks for thinking of the rest of the people on the road.

 

AS LONG AS YOUR REAR IS CONNECTED YOU HAVE NO PROBS...Its good practice to reconnect when youre back on the bitchumen though...

KSK

 

Wow who knew that being lazy joke would give you reasoning for all your bullshit what if's.

Using a seatbelt and talking about a riding motorcycle in the same sentence is just more bullshit. No seatbelt's on a motorcycle, you gonna call every manufacturer and complain they are unsafe.

You are talking about situation's that require you to act fast and probably over react because of the sudden situation. Ok , so I swerve, now what do I hit? A tree, telephone poll, pedestrians on the sidewalk, parked car, a divider, I roll it, oh wait on coming traffic. Do you want me to keep going, there is nothing safe about that situation connected or not.

 

Good grief. There don't seem to be any revelations here. The guys that have run them disconnected on road (including me) seem to have a good grasp of the risks involved. Preaching about the potential for litigation, and absolute fabrications about a trip to jail, is not going to do anything.

Take a step back. No one is going to die. No one is going to end up with criminal charges. No one is going to jail. They are empty threats fabricated to make a point. There likely isn't a single case where any of these bad things ever happened only because of ASB links. There is a risk involved here. Just like running a lift, and just like bigger tires. If you won't or can't tolerate the risk then don't take it.

The ASB mount fell off my F150 a week after I bought it (yes I fixed it). The ASB was entirely missing off my CJ7, and I never even attempted to purchase one. My first TJ was purchased from the original owner with 150,000 miles with a broken ASB link (stock). The original owner told be it broke at about 62,000 miles ( fixed it). Two of the three E250 vans I have owned had the ASB omitted at the factory. One of them had it. My family and I have likely traveled 50k in vehicles that should have had a ASB but did not.

At the level I am willing to drive my vehicles, even in an emergency, I feel the thing is largely a placebo. It makes the driver and passengers feel better because it limits body roll. Is there any real evidence that additional body roll really increases the likely hood of a roll (assuming all things are apples to apples)?. I know from accident reports that most rollovers involve leaving the road, so the initial physics of the rolling may not be as linked as one might assume.

Back to the OP, I'll evaluate the risk and take it. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with traveling from trail to trail with the ASB discoed. One good thing about connecting it, is that it forces you to have a good look at other more important things. One of those more important things is the front axle mount where the track bar is attached. Many have broken, and you should not drive on the road with a failed one.

I'm glad the OP didn't mention the single digit tire pressures run when I go from trail to trail .

 

LOL, this is too funny.....kinda reminds me of the debate I've gotten into with others about me not wearing my seatbelt to drive to the mailbox to check the mail, paranoid people are funny.

Thanks to the people who gave me the answer I was looking for though...

 

Excessive speed, stupidity, and the laws of physics from the two things mentioned kill people....not a lack of swaybars.

Yes, they are designed for the safety especially for the regular Joe. Now for those with lifts that are crying for everyone to put them on, take a minute here.

Those bars are designed for a stock height vehicule with stock tires. Once you get bigger wheels with smaller backspacing, you are not only increasing the leverage the wheels will provide in trying to rotate the vehicule around it's roll centre but the extra unsprung weight of that wheels will try and keep them rotating longer as you are stopping with the same brakes.


So, I know some lifts offer higher spring rates to offset this, but seriously, before you start preaching this and that do your homework. Bigger wheels, you should put bigger breaks.....god help that goat crossing the street....and the temptation to swerve that you might feel...and risk your life. Higher lift, make sure you get higher spring rates, and offcourse get thicker swaybars cause the stock ones are useless to a vehicule with a lift. Raise the roll centre. You lifted it, so finish the job.

I know the intent here is to have a safe drive for everyone. I agree too. But if you excercise good judgement - slower, and not drive like an idiot, you will have no problems.

 

I'm glad you mentioned all these opportunities for death and disfigurement. I would like to add by saying the following. I see you have lifted your Jeep 4 inches and put larger tires on it. Also you have put a very heavy and destructive bumper on the front. When I buy my child a practical fuel efficient vehicle that sits low to the ground. Watch out. For if you run into them and your bumper does not line up with their vehicles bumper and you cause them bodily harm. I will sue you, your children and your grand children. For it is your fault for having said lift and tires and bumper onto your vehicle. Which will not be labeled as a death machine because of said modifications. Also, I wonder if the manufacturer of your suspension lift included the sticker to place in your vehicle as my Teraflex lift did. It states that you have increased the chance of roll over with your suspension lift. Higher center of gravity you know. This is no different than leaving your sway bar disconnected. So, if you don't mind. Please remove all of you aforementioned modifications as you are endangering yourself and others.

Thank you.

 

Seriously, for those that are so concerned about people not connecting their sway bars.. What do you think you've done with your modifications? Really? You have raised your center of gravity and have increased your chance of a rollover. Does your bumper still line up with other vehicles? What do you think you'll do to others in an accident with your lifted vehicle?

Disconnecting your sway bar does cause more body roll. But a poor set of shocks can also do that. Common sense when driving is the number one way to keep from 'endangering yourself and others'.

 

Im not arguing here. I really careless what you do. None of you are seeing my point, so I will just stop posting. Not once did I argue. Not once did I say anything about someone else. Not once did I say I would sue you if you hit me because you were not running your sway bars and not in control of your vehicle. Some people can't discuss on this board. Most of the time it turns to arguing and making fun of.

If I didnt have electric disconnects I would probably not connect them either if I was going a short distance and not going over 60mph.

What Im saying is if you have them, why not use them. Dont let the excuse be that you are lazy. There are so many what ifs.

You would wear a helmet if you had one and were about to ride a motorcycle.
You would were a seatbelt if you were going to drive a distance.
You would wear a condom if well you know the rest....

All Im saying is if you have something that decreases bodily harm, why not use it and lessen you chances of something happening.

Do what ya like. I guess Im the only one that likes to prevent something from happening before it even happens.

For those mentioning modifcations. We are not talking about modifications. We are talking about a safety part designed to help you stay in control that is still conected to your vehicle that you are choosing not to use.

Cant we just get along and discuss.
I see both sides completely.