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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 06:31 AM
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First let me say, that I have, I think, corrected my DW issue. However, I have do have small wobbles every once in a while and they always seem to occur at similar speed and when its cold out. I've even rechecked all the things you should check for torque and so on and all that was good. I don't want to mask any issues that might be DW related, but these intermittent (does it one day and not the next - that kinda thing) wobbles are driving me insane . So I was wondering what, if anything, would it help to have a dual stabilizer installed. I am running 37s on a 4" skyjacker lift. Anyone else running dual stabilizer or recommend it (because it was something that was recommended to me for anyone running 37 and larger tires)?
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by hneiper
First let me say, that I have, I think, corrected my DW issue. However, I have do have small wobbles every once in a while and they always seem to occur at similar speed and when its cold out. I've even rechecked all the things you should check for torque and so on and all that was good. I don't want to mask any issues that might be DW related, but these intermittent (does it one day and not the next - that kinda thing) wobbles are driving me insane . So I was wondering what, if anything, would it help to have a dual stabilizer installed. I am running 37s on a 4" skyjacker lift. Anyone else running dual stabilizer or recommend it (because it was something that was recommended to me for anyone running 37 and larger tires)?
I'm running the RC one and it's great. It will not fix any death rattle issues though. Where you will notice it is keeping the steering tight and smooth when hitting minor bumps and potholes. It also really helps keep things solid when at highway speeds - that is where I noticed the biggest difference.

Overall, it is nice to have and makes commuting and light wheeling a smoother experience, but it is not the solution to death rattle. I'm only running 35s, so you may have even better results. You did check your ball joints I'm guessing? That's a biggie right there and a top cause of DR...

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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by hneiper
First let me say, that I have, I think, corrected my DW issue. However, I have do have small wobbles every once in a while and they always seem to occur at similar speed and when its cold out. I've even rechecked all the things you should check for torque and so on and all that was good. I don't want to mask any issues that might be DW related, but these intermittent (does it one day and not the next - that kinda thing) wobbles are driving me insane . So I was wondering what, if anything, would it help to have a dual stabilizer installed. I am running 37s on a 4" skyjacker lift. Anyone else running dual stabilizer or recommend it (because it was something that was recommended to me for anyone running 37 and larger tires)?
i've run 37's for a few months without any steering stablizer and, without any issues. have you checked your ball joints to make sure they aren't worn out? also, have you double checked your track bar bushings and toe-in to make sure it's set correctly?
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 06:54 AM
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Definetely check your track bar bushings and mount. I have no wobble issues or steering problems and do run the Skyjacker dual stabs. ( i preferred it's mounts over RC) Yes, it is a snug feel. Some like them, some don't. Have not hit it yet and if I do I have a single to go on and replace it in stock location.

I think WOL trys without componants to cut weight off Moby.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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New ball joints and new track bar installed about 3wks ago along with new tie-rod ends, front lower control arm bushings, and new drop pitman. Also had an alignment, tires balanced, and cams (though one of them seems to have slipped out of place) to adjust the (caster/camber? - cant remember which.) And I think they mentioned the toe-in was good. But I have no idea what "good" means. How do I know what is good or not?
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by hneiper
New ball joints and new track bar installed about 3wks ago along with new tie-rod ends, front lower control arm bushings, and new drop pitman. Also had an alignment, tires balanced, and cams (though one of them seems to have slipped out of place) to adjust the (caster/camber? - cant remember which.) And I think they mentioned the toe-in was good. But I have no idea what "good" means. How do I know what is good or not?
i see that you have a skyjacker 4" lift. is it safe to assume that you are running the front track bar relocation bracket that comes with the kit? if so, i would remove it and check to see if there's any fatigue or cracking of the factory mount. this bracket is notorious for acting like a lever and tearing the factory mount off. before that happens, most people describe symptoms similar to yours. also, cam bolts are nothing but bad news and could very well be part of your problem. i personally would remove the, have the slots made repaired and have a set of adjustable lower control arms installed in their place.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
i see that you have a skyjacker 4" lift. is it safe to assume that you are running the front track bar relocation bracket that comes with the kit? if so, i would remove it and check to see if there's any fatigue or cracking of the factory mount. this bracket is notorious for acting like a lever and tearing the factory mount off. before that happens, most people describe symptoms similar to yours. also, cam bolts are nothing but bad news and could very well be part of your problem. i personally would remove the, have the slots made repaired and have a set of adjustable lower control arms installed in their place.
I remember reading an article or write-up somewhere (plus you mentioned it here) that you don't run a stabilizer and was wondering how you got so lucky !

Yeah, it came with the sj kit already when i bought it. The track bar axle side is mounted to a bracket that is welded onto the axle which is also a part of the truss. I have looked at it and didn't notice any cracking. I haven't taken it off myself yet. Will I have any issues doing this myself? Will it be easy to reinstall or anything I should be keeping an eye on?
I plan on ridding myself of the cam bolts by adding the adj. lower control arms.

And eventually I will replace the entire kit with something else. Just looking to get rid of this wobble for good.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 08:30 AM
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2 is better than 1 I thought

Like owning 2 jeeps is better than owning 1 Jeep.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 08:52 AM
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Dual stabilizers really offer no benefit over a single besides looking good
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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Wobbles that occur only at cold temps sound like possible tire balance issues. True death wobble is normally track bar related and other wobbles are normally loose or worn out steering components. Steering stabilizers can mask issues and help with bump steer, but if you have issues that a dual stabilizer would in any way help, you'd be better off addressing the root causes.
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