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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 06:09 AM
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So should i turn it off when off road or does it help? I have no lockers
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by lank
ESP is automatically switched off when you place the transfer case in 4L.

You generally don't want ESP when you're traveling at low speeds off road, but ESP could save your life on the road. The way it is set up from the factory makes sense. In 2H and 4H you are most likely traveling at higher speeds so you get ESP. In 4L you're probably wheeling on very rough terrain at low speeds so ESP is disabled so that it doesn't get in your way.
Oh i see yeah because i was looking at some threads that they turned it off but i wasn't sure why
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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I keep asking this, but nobody seems to have even a guess:

Did they change the name of the stability gimmick from ESP to ESC on a model year change? Its called ESC on my 2011 but I see a lot of posts call it ESP here.

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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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I hate the ESP it has got me stuck a couple times going threw mud I switch it off in 4h but forget to do it again when I shut the motor off. I wish it would shut off in 4h too
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by lank
ESP and ESC are just two names for the same system. The official name according to the Society of Automotive Engineers is Electronic Stability Control (ESC). Chrysler and some other manufacturers refer to their systems as the Electronic Stability Program (ESP).

If I remember correctly, my owner's manual (2012) calls it ESP.

My dash actually says "ESC OFF" when I shift into 4L, again if I remember correctly.

ESP and ESC are interchangeable terms. Even Chrysler seems to use them interchangeably.
Thanks! I figured they must be interchangeable. My 2011 book calls it ESC. The dashboard switch and cluster light don't have labels at all, just the icon.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lank
Yeah some people choose to disable their ESP. I think it's a useful safety feature and I would never want to disable it, unless my Jeep was a dedicated trail rig. If you make lots of suspension modifications and the ESP starts activating when it shouldn't be, that would be a good reason for disabling it I guess.
Exactly the reason I disabled mine. After I installed my lift it it was going off all the time. I made sure the steering wheel was centered multiple times. ESP would still kick in. That bad thing about it was it kicks in when taking corners and high speeds. If your trying to build up speed to get on the highway while in a turn and your rear brakes try to lock up it can be scary. In that situation it is just as unsafe as not having it on at all. I ellected to turn mine off.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lank
Just curious - did you program the new tire size and gearing in with a procal? ESP will definitely work incorrectly if you throw on 35s and 5.13s without reprogramming.
I did not use a Procal. I have the RIPP SC and it comes with a Daiblo Predator which allows you to do the same. As soon as I installed the 4" Long Arm Lift my ESP went nuts. My steering wheel could be off a bit and maybe that is what was causing the problem but I tore through a pair of rear brake pads before 20,000 miles. I could not take corners over 20MPH. I finally got tired of it and had my ECM flashed(2007) so I could do the steering wheel dance to shut it off.
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