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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 05:27 AM
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I've got a skyjacker 4" lift and jks front adjustable trackbar and trackbar relocation brackets axle and frame side. Also using a drop pitman.

Question is, since I still have bumpsteer issues should I look at installing the kit and better yet will it work with my current configuration? If not what would I need to change to make it work?
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 05:39 AM
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you say you have a jks track bar relocation bracket installed but, do you have dropped pitman arm installed too? if not, that is your problem. if so, you shouldn't be having bumpsteer issues and your problem may be something else.

if you still want to install the evo kit, you will need to remove the dropped pitman arm you have and JKS relocation bracket you have on now.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
you say you have a jks track bar relocation bracket installed but, do you have dropped pitman arm installed too? if not, that is your problem. if so, you shouldn't be having bumpsteer issues and your problem may be something else.

if you still want to install the evo kit, you will need to remove the dropped pitman arm you have and JKS relocation bracket you have on now.
Well, I guess I should have been more clear in my wording. I have a jks adj. trackbar which I had installed as part of an effort to correct DW issue. Also, I have a relocation bracket axle side (welded on) that is part of the skyj***** lift kit (so i was told by 4wp). And as far as the frame-side bracket (also welded on) goes, I think it was also part of the lift kit. Again, going on what I was told since the lift was already on the jeep when i bought it. I guess I could be wrong about the frame side bracket (my bad for giving misinformation if i did) but I thought it was a drop bracket and was told similarly. Hell, it could be the stock mount location for all I know .

Now the pitman arm is a drop pitman and was already installed to. In fact, it was replaced recently by 4wp because they said there was shearing of the teeth on it.

The draglink and trackbar do look pretty parallel to each other. Guess I could put the angle finder to them and know for sure. Also, maybe pictures would be helpful, if so I will post some this evening.

I do still have bump steer issues. I've gotten somewhat used to it but would rather not have to live with it. Plus when around 40mph it sometimes results in a shimmy which is another matter altogether that pains me.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hneiper
Well, I guess I should have been more clear in my wording. I have a jks adj. trackbar which I had installed as part of an effort to correct DW issue. Also, I have a relocation bracket axle side (welded on) that is part of the skyj***** lift kit (so i was told by 4wp). And as far as the frame-side bracket (also welded on) goes, I think it was also part of the lift kit. Again, going on what I was told since the lift was already on the jeep when i bought it. I guess I could be wrong about the frame side bracket (my bad for giving misinformation if i did) but I thought it was a drop bracket and was told similarly. Hell, it could be the stock mount location for all I know .

Now the pitman arm is a drop pitman and was already installed to. In fact, it was replaced recently by 4wp because they said there was shearing of the teeth on it.

The draglink and trackbar do look pretty parallel to each other. Guess I could put the angle finder to them and know for sure. Also, maybe pictures would be helpful, if so I will post some this evening.

I do still have bump steer issues. I've gotten somewhat used to it but would rather not have to live with it. Plus when around 40mph it sometimes results in a shimmy which is another matter altogether that pains me.
first off, a speed related shimmy is almost always a wheel balance problem and you should try getting your tires rebalanced.

regarding your track bar, you should ONLY have one relocation bracket installed. if you really do have one on the axle and one on the frame, that is most likely your problem and one should be removed.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 06:41 AM
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Recommend ditching the dropped arm before you take out a sector shaft!

With a bracket on the axle side I don't see the need for a dropped arm!

Tire balancing and maybe your caster angle?

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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
first off, a speed related shimmy is almost always a wheel balance problem and you should try getting your tires rebalanced.

regarding your track bar, you should ONLY have one relocation bracket installed. if you really do have one on the axle and one on the frame, that is most likely your problem and one should be removed.
guess i'll be getting them balanced again. and I pray that i only have one relocation bracket. thx!
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by steve79
Recommend ditching the dropped arm before you take out a sector shaft!
eh, damaging a sector shaft is a legit concern but, not as bad as you're making it sound. i'm still running a dropped pitman arm and pushing super heavy toyo 40x15.50's

With a bracket on the axle side I don't see the need for a dropped arm!
the bracket only addresses the track bar. you still need to address the drag link and, unless you install a drag link flip, a dropped pitman arm is needed for proper steering geometry
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 06:59 AM
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eh, damaging a sector shaft is a legit concern but, not as bad as you're making it sound. i'm still running a dropped pitman arm and pushing super heavy toyo 40x15.50's



the bracket only addresses the track bar. you still need to address the drag link and, unless you install a drag link flip, a dropped pitman arm is needed for proper steering geometry
do you have a shaft brace too or just run the drop pitman?

so with the dropped pitman and the axle side bracket i can live without the flip kit, otherwise if i lost the drop pitman i would need the flip kit - all for correcting the steering geometry? just making sure i understand clearly before i screw things up -- thx!
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hneiper
do you have a shaft brace too or just run the drop pitman?
i don't have a brace but, it probably would be a good idea to have.

so with the dropped pitman and the axle side bracket i can live without the flip kit, otherwise if i lost the drop pitman i would need the flip kit - all for correcting the steering geometry? just making sure i understand clearly before i screw things up -- thx!
correct. the dropped pitman arm will address the angle of your drag link and the track bar relocation bracket will address the angle of the track bar. you do not need a flip kit on top of all this. if you install a drag link flip, you can remove your dropped pitman arm.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
i don't have a brace but, it probably would be a good idea to have.



correct. the dropped pitman arm will address the angle of your drag link and the track bar relocation bracket will address the angle of the track bar. you do not need a flip kit on top of all this. if you install a drag link flip, you can remove your dropped pitman arm.
great :smile:. now just gotta address the shimmy and figure out what else might be causing my bumpsteer. re: the shimmy, you know this weekend i had to re-seat the front driver side coil spring coz i noticed it had rotated and causing it to sit a bit lower - and i think i didn't have this issue before that - could have been at least an inch difference after re-seating it

thanks for the information on the drag link!
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