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Front bumpers, air bag compatible??

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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JKA
Ill put this one to rest and place all the components of the JK bumper for the Euro spec.


The TJ bumper does not have that many holes. Ill clip the lower splash guard on and post the pic?
I didnt mean it that way, it just looks like jeep reused the TJ bumper..



I just read the Jeep catalog that came in the mail.

it says the frame rail extensions are for low impact collisions, Under 8 mph.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jayrav
PIAJ just wants to keep this thread on life support for a while longer. Lol!
haha, I'm trying
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 06:30 AM
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CLEAR!

*bzzzt*

yup, still alive



it does look like a tj bumper. i wonder if they did use old parts or old part blank stock to build new parts?
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JKA
No worries Mate i understood what you were saying i just thought id clear it up befor someone took what you said and ran with it
I understand that, it would never happen on a forum
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 07:13 AM
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there's a standard bumper height that government requires manufacturers to meet, even on 18 wheelers. once you lift your jeep you raised your bumper above government manufacturing standards.

pull up to the back of your wifes car or minivan... see where your bumper hits?
not bumper to bumper.

measure the thickness of your steel offroad bumper against the stock sheetmetal bumper (add the coffee cans thickness too). note the difference? if you hit something with your offroad bumper chances are you will crush it.

the one person i've known that was unfortunate enough to wreck in a liffted jeep was ariborne and bags went off when they landed, not on impact. think going airborne is fairly standard on lifted vehicles?

if you've not lifted your jeep and do not have a winch you may want to consider a bumper with coffee cans. bottom line is the airbag deployment software does not know if you have lifted or installed an offroad (real) bumper

buy the Mopar bumper and end the discussion
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 69thunderbird
there's a standard bumper height that government requires manufacturers to meet, even on 18 wheelers. once you lift your jeep you raised your bumper above government manufacturing standards.

pull up to the back of your wifes car or minivan... see where your bumper hits?
not bumper to bumper.

measure the thickness of your steel offroad bumper against the stock sheetmetal bumper (add the coffee cans thickness too). note the difference? if you hit something with your offroad bumper chances are you will crush it.

the one person i've known that was unfortunate enough to wreck in a liffted jeep was ariborne and bags went off when they landed, not on impact. think going airborne is fairly standard on lifted vehicles?

if you've not lifted your jeep and do not have a winch you may want to consider a bumper with coffee cans. bottom line is the airbag deployment software does not know if you have lifted or installed an offroad (real) bumper

buy the Mopar bumper and end the discussion
The poster right above you lost his first JK in a front end collision. He didn't go all dukes of hazard.

(Pj bumper and warn winch)
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 69thunderbird
there's a standard bumper height that government requires manufacturers to meet, even on 18 wheelers. once you lift your jeep you raised your bumper above government manufacturing standards.

pull up to the back of your wifes car or minivan... see where your bumper hits?
not bumper to bumper.

measure the thickness of your steel offroad bumper against the stock sheetmetal bumper (add the coffee cans thickness too). note the difference? if you hit something with your offroad bumper chances are you will crush it.

the one person i've known that was unfortunate enough to wreck in a liffted jeep was ariborne and bags went off when they landed, not on impact. think going airborne is fairly standard on lifted vehicles?

if you've not lifted your jeep and do not have a winch you may want to consider a bumper with coffee cans. bottom line is the airbag deployment software does not know if you have lifted or installed an offroad (real) bumper

buy the Mopar bumper and end the discussion
Go back and read post #62 and the attachment.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by owtcast
Go back and read post #62 and the attachment.
so maybe my coffee cans will protect my winch rollers! sweet
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 69thunderbird
... buy the Mopar bumper and end the discussion
Hmmm. I'd be very surprised if the Mopar after-market bumper went through any crash testing similar to the stock bumper.

As for bumper heights: Yes, lifting a Jeep may move the bumper higher than the standard specifies. But the fact that truck/SUV bumper heights don't match car bumper heights is an accepted part of those safety standards. There has been some silly discussion about requiring SUVs and light trucks to have bumpers lowered to the same height as cars. Can you imagine off-roading with a bumper at the same height as your wife's car?
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Doiron
Hmmm. I'd be very surprised if the Mopar after-market bumper went through any crash testing similar to the stock bumper.

As for bumper heights: Yes, lifting a Jeep may move the bumper higher than the standard specifies. But the fact that truck/SUV bumper heights don't match car bumper heights is an accepted part of those safety standards. There has been some silly discussion about requiring SUVs and light trucks to have bumpers lowered to the same height as cars. Can you imagine off-roading with a bumper at the same height as your wife's car?
LOL - think they would have to call it bull-dozing!

Glad we are 'hopefully' grandfathered in if they make that a federal mandate.

I don't think any of the off-road bumpers i've seen would pass a 'safety crumple test'!
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