Frustrated...
I got my zone 4" lift kit installed this last weekend and a steering stabilizer, after the lift I got a alignment done. But my steering wheel is still a little to the left and it feels strange to drive, I also hit a small pot hole earlier and went into a crazy death wobble that only stopped when I immediately came to a hault. Before the lift kit I had zero issues and never a experience with death wobble, I've already taken it back to the shop once, they re greased it all and torqued everything back to spec (I was also having a squeak noise before that). Idk what to do... I'm not too happy with it all. Any advice?
Lovely... Any recommendation on a 3-4" lift at a decent cost but good quality? I'm sure there are tons of different opinions but I'd like to hear what some people say, practically any one who is running a lift and can speak from experience.
Check out these few links:
Rock Krawler 2.5 Flex System - This system will give you the lower control arms so that you can adjust your castor and prevent the death wobble. You also get the adjustable front track bar again to help prevent death wobble.
If you want a higher lift height then you can look at this link:
Rock Krawler 3.5" X Factor System - This system will give you adjustable front arms to adjust your castor and also give you rear adjustable track bar. It will also give you the adjustable upper rear arms so you can adjust your pinion angle and save your driveshaft.
Rock Krawler 2.5 Flex System - This system will give you the lower control arms so that you can adjust your castor and prevent the death wobble. You also get the adjustable front track bar again to help prevent death wobble.
If you want a higher lift height then you can look at this link:
Rock Krawler 3.5" X Factor System - This system will give you adjustable front arms to adjust your castor and also give you rear adjustable track bar. It will also give you the adjustable upper rear arms so you can adjust your pinion angle and save your driveshaft.
Last edited by k0260; Dec 16, 2012 at 01:58 PM.
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Thanks for the support guys! Anyone else please fell free to continue throwing some lifts my direction with your opinions/experience with them. I'm currently looking into replacing with rock krawler lift.
Hmmm...I've never heard of too little caster casuing death wobble . Flighty steering, yes...but death wobble...no way. If it is true death wobble, your Jeep will shake uncontrollably to the point where it feels like it is about to fall apart. If that's what you have then it is most likey track bar related or something other than your control arms. Maybe another steering component issue.
Can I assume that the Zone lift (made by BDS but without the warranty) is just the coils, shocks and maybe track bar or relocation bracket? 9 times out of 10, DW is going to come from either bolts not torqued properly (track bars are 120 ft ilbs) or possibly the mount holes are wobbled out which is very common. Some say that once you remove the stock bolts once, they are never the same. You can try running new bolts like the kit NR sells as those are designed to be the proper size bolts vs the wrong ones our Jeeps ship with.
If you really want to rule out the control arms, you can lossen the bolts, shake your Jeep back and forth a bit to reposition them and then retigten. You can check the bushings and mount holes but I;ve never heard of anyone getting DW from control arms.
At 4" of lift, you are going to have some significant driveline changes with driveshaft issues ane caster and pinion issues. That is probably why people are saying to get a better lift. Maybe I'd use the term, more complete lift. Getting adjustable components like control arms and track bars let you dial everything in and get the geometry back in line. If cost is an issue, grab a set of AEV brackets. Not the greatest for off-road since they hang down a bit but they work very well at reducing or eliminating flighty steering. And they are about $100 vs $300+ for adjustable arms.
I've wheeled with guys with Zone lifts and they are not terrible. I can think of other brands that are worse. They guys that I know had no issues off road but found the coils began to sag over time with heavy bumpers. Most went with Rock Krawler or other brands that use progressive rate coils that handle heavy weight.
And the 3.5" X Factor mentioned by the vendor above, that comes with all 8 arms and both front and rear track bars (the description above makes it sound less complete). It also forces you to push your axle back an inch to recenter the rear wheels in the wheel well. That means moving your sway bar back an inch as well and some minor welding for the rear track bar bracket. Great lift (I have it) but it is very expensive and could be overkill depending on what your wheeling intentions are. The Max Travel systems from RK are a great intro and are fully upgradeable if needed.
Can I assume that the Zone lift (made by BDS but without the warranty) is just the coils, shocks and maybe track bar or relocation bracket? 9 times out of 10, DW is going to come from either bolts not torqued properly (track bars are 120 ft ilbs) or possibly the mount holes are wobbled out which is very common. Some say that once you remove the stock bolts once, they are never the same. You can try running new bolts like the kit NR sells as those are designed to be the proper size bolts vs the wrong ones our Jeeps ship with.
If you really want to rule out the control arms, you can lossen the bolts, shake your Jeep back and forth a bit to reposition them and then retigten. You can check the bushings and mount holes but I;ve never heard of anyone getting DW from control arms.
At 4" of lift, you are going to have some significant driveline changes with driveshaft issues ane caster and pinion issues. That is probably why people are saying to get a better lift. Maybe I'd use the term, more complete lift. Getting adjustable components like control arms and track bars let you dial everything in and get the geometry back in line. If cost is an issue, grab a set of AEV brackets. Not the greatest for off-road since they hang down a bit but they work very well at reducing or eliminating flighty steering. And they are about $100 vs $300+ for adjustable arms.
I've wheeled with guys with Zone lifts and they are not terrible. I can think of other brands that are worse. They guys that I know had no issues off road but found the coils began to sag over time with heavy bumpers. Most went with Rock Krawler or other brands that use progressive rate coils that handle heavy weight.
And the 3.5" X Factor mentioned by the vendor above, that comes with all 8 arms and both front and rear track bars (the description above makes it sound less complete). It also forces you to push your axle back an inch to recenter the rear wheels in the wheel well. That means moving your sway bar back an inch as well and some minor welding for the rear track bar bracket. Great lift (I have it) but it is very expensive and could be overkill depending on what your wheeling intentions are. The Max Travel systems from RK are a great intro and are fully upgradeable if needed.
Last edited by mpkelley20; Dec 16, 2012 at 02:17 PM.
I had a similar experience. Turned out to be the ball joints. Before you scrap your lift, have them checked out. Stock ones are notoriously cheap. Heavy duty ball joints are out there. Good luck!


