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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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Use wheel balancing beads. They're incredible!!!
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GaMtnJk
15'' or 17'' wheels?
I have the stock Rubi 17" wheels. I like the MTR/Ks, they really dig in off road, are quiet and have great road handling with the 3.5" AEV lift on my DD Rubi 2 door. But I put over 50K on the original BFGs (rotated every 5-6K) without a problem and they were never rebalanced.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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I can't get my MTR/k's to balance. I have taken them back to discount tire several times and they still cannot get it right. I am going to try a road force balance shop next. I am exhausted dealing with this. Really wish I got the BFG's right now.

This is my last set of MTR's. Sucks because they are quiet on the highway and have some great offroad performace but in the end they just suck to balance.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 02:06 AM
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I had my MTRs roadforce balanced and all of them needed to be rotated on the wheel and required a fair amount of weight. One tire wouldn't balance and I opted for Dynabeads. It was enough weight where had it not have been already siped, I would have sent it back.

Just had the second 5 tire rotation and rebalance done at 12,000 miles, after developing a very modest shake. One of the tires was a bit off and had to reduce the weight on it. Likely from some high spots wearing down.

Next time on a new set of tires I am going to have them use half the weights required, and use half the prescribed amount of dynabeads. That should keep me good through the life of the tire, and really don't want to go through balancing tires 2 or 3 times over their life.

Also, my jeep is now running as smooth as ever with absolutely no tire shake that I can feel with just my thumb on the wheel. I'm definitely sold on the roadforce balance and also what Dynabeads bring to the table.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 04:10 AM
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I have had problems with mine. Have had them road forced a couple times. One thing that I noticed, is that if I do not drive my jeep for a couple days, the balance is worse. After I drive it quite a bit, the balance improves. Not sure the rational for this. May has to do with soft spots, load C, ? I have a very slight vibe at 60mph, Im just going to deal with it. I would do the dynabeads, but Im running bead locks, would be a royal pain in the ass to remove the beads if they did not help with balancing. I am going toyo next time.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryanc
I have had problems with mine. Have had them road forced a couple times. One thing that I noticed, is that if I do not drive my jeep for a couple days, the balance is worse. After I drive it quite a bit, the balance improves. Not sure the rational for this. May has to do with soft spots, load C, ? I have a very slight vibe at 60mph, Im just going to deal with it. I would do the dynabeads, but Im running bead locks, would be a royal pain in the ass to remove the beads if they did not help with balancing. I am going toyo next time.
I long for having my Toyos back, but I don't see any reason why you would need to remove the beads. Even if your tire was already perfectly balanced before installing dynabeads or the like, it would remain perfectly balanced. That's why I mentioned next time through this I am going to use half the recommended dynabeads weight per wheel, and then have the tires conventionally balanced. That should solve any issues with wear and scrubbing off the high spots, and again I don't think I would need to have them rebalanced over the life of the tire.

Also, on the load range C comments I totally agree that this is a culprit with the tires not staying balanced. Flat out, the MTRs in the 35x12.5x17 are not a heavy enough tire for a JK. Off road they do fine, in fact great. On road they have too much lateral sway and bounce while cornering. I find it really bothersome that I need to reduce my speed by 10-20% more than what I did with my Toyos. I just have no confidence in them not cutting loose because of the associated weighting an unweighting caused by the pliancy of the sidewall.

Planman's been a great help on a lot of things, but I feel a bit burnt on this one. Short window to get new tires, no Toyos around and slim options as to what I could take delivery of. The MTRs were available, although my head told me the 111 Service Description wasn't enough. Numerous posts about the preference for a load range C and softer tire had me throwing caution to the wind, to my regret. In hindsight, a perfect example why a C,D,E load index doesn't really mean all that much as if the Service Description would have been 115 or higher (possible C or D rated) I wouldn't have any issues.

Also, for whatever reason, the 35x12.5x17 MTR is about the only tire in this model that isn't really adequate for a JK.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 05:04 AM
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Thanks for all the great answers guys I guess I will be going with KM2's!
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JPop
I long for having my Toyos back, but I don't see any reason why you would need to remove the beads. Even if your tire was already perfectly balanced before installing dynabeads or the like, it would remain perfectly balanced. That's why I mentioned next time through this I am going to use half the recommended dynabeads weight per wheel, and then have the tires conventionally balanced. That should solve any issues with wear and scrubbing off the high spots, and again I don't think I would need to have them rebalanced over the life of the tire.

Also, on the load range C comments I totally agree that this is a culprit with the tires not staying balanced. Flat out, the MTRs in the 35x12.5x17 are not a heavy enough tire for a JK. Off road they do fine, in fact great. On road they have too much lateral sway and bounce while cornering. I find it really bothersome that I need to reduce my speed by 10-20% more than what I did with my Toyos. I just have no confidence in them not cutting loose because of the associated weighting an unweighting caused by the pliancy of the sidewall.

Planman's been a great help on a lot of things, but I feel a bit burnt on this one. Short window to get new tires, no Toyos around and slim options as to what I could take delivery of. The MTRs were available, although my head told me the 111 Service Description wasn't enough. Numerous posts about the preference for a load range C and softer tire had me throwing caution to the wind, to my regret. In hindsight, a perfect example why a C,D,E load index doesn't really mean all that much as if the Service Description would have been 115 or higher (possible C or D rated) I wouldn't have any issues.

Also, for whatever reason, the 35x12.5x17 MTR is about the only tire in this model that isn't really adequate for a JK.
Can a tire be road forced after the beads are added? Intuitively my guess would be yes as long as they spun it fast enough, long enough.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JPop
I long for having my Toyos back, but I don't see any reason why you would need to remove the beads. Even if your tire was already perfectly balanced before installing dynabeads or the like, it would remain perfectly balanced. That's why I mentioned next time through this I am going to use half the recommended dynabeads weight per wheel, and then have the tires conventionally balanced. That should solve any issues with wear and scrubbing off the high spots, and again I don't think I would need to have them rebalanced over the life of the tire.

Also, on the load range C comments I totally agree that this is a culprit with the tires not staying balanced. Flat out, the MTRs in the 35x12.5x17 are not a heavy enough tire for a JK. Off road they do fine, in fact great. On road they have too much lateral sway and bounce while cornering. I find it really bothersome that I need to reduce my speed by 10-20% more than what I did with my Toyos. I just have no confidence in them not cutting loose because of the associated weighting an unweighting caused by the pliancy of the sidewall.

Planman's been a great help on a lot of things, but I feel a bit burnt on this one. Short window to get new tires, no Toyos around and slim options as to what I could take delivery of. The MTRs were available, although my head told me the 111 Service Description wasn't enough. Numerous posts about the preference for a load range C and softer tire had me throwing caution to the wind, to my regret. In hindsight, a perfect example why a C,D,E load index doesn't really mean all that much as if the Service Description would have been 115 or higher (possible C or D rated) I wouldn't have any issues.

Also, for whatever reason, the 35x12.5x17 MTR is about the only tire in this model that isn't really adequate for a JK.
Why use any weights with the Beads? I thought the point of them was so that you don't have to mess with the weights at all. Also when you use the beads do you get a vibration every time you start out while the beads are "positioning" themselves? Like if you went from a dead stop and floored the Jeep onto the interstate.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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Just bought my 37" MTR K's on 17" wheels with no issue. I'd heard of the balancing issues too, so when I had them installed I instructed the tire tech to tell me if any of them required excessive weighting to balance or if one (or more) wouldn't balance at all. I told them, that if they got a wobbly tire to order new ones until they got a good one and then let the tire shop deal with Goodyear. Not my issue to deal with I figured. Keep throwing me MTR's until we get a good set of 5. Luckily, all balanced A-Okay. One did require re-seating on the rim for a second try. They do drive very nicely on pavement and rocked on the Colorado trails last weekend.
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