HELP!! Broken Bracket
well i won and the dealership is paying for it. all it took was a small temper tamtrum in the showroom. And a loaner car magically appeared. One for the good guys!!! the pic that someone posted was great but my part broke on the front. anyone have the same kind of pic but the front undercarriage? or wait...is that the front????????? im lost
really??
We might look back on these days as the best of times when a car company actually built a platform onto which the average Joe could build a mild to wild bonofide 4x4. I mean the Wrangler is the very last of a dying breed, two solid axles, a real transfer case, coil suspension and lockers. Damn we had it so good!!! Then a bunch of snivelers ruined it for future generations, the corporate bean counters convinced the passionate ones that its not worth the investment to do another Wrangler. Jeep designed the Wrangler with stock specifications in mind. As soon as we throw 35s, 500lbs in bumpers, winches and all the rest, we have to assume some responsibility for parts failures.
Jeep may just become a victim of its own success. Long live the Jeep. Long live the Wrangler.

We might look back on these days as the best of times when a car company actually built a platform onto which the average Joe could build a mild to wild bonofide 4x4. I mean the Wrangler is the very last of a dying breed, two solid axles, a real transfer case, coil suspension and lockers. Damn we had it so good!!! Then a bunch of snivelers ruined it for future generations, the corporate bean counters convinced the passionate ones that its not worth the investment to do another Wrangler. Jeep designed the Wrangler with stock specifications in mind. As soon as we throw 35s, 500lbs in bumpers, winches and all the rest, we have to assume some responsibility for parts failures.
Jeep may just become a victim of its own success. Long live the Jeep. Long live the Wrangler.
I will have to agree also on this topic. When I built my TJ, it was under warranty. After throwing on 5"s of lift, lockers, and 35"s there were some things that took alot of stress. I broke a few control arm brackets, and a trac bar bracket. I didn't take it to the dealer and throw a fit to get it fixed.
I either fixed it myself or got a buddy to help me out. I knew that I added STRESS on those components from the lift and everything else. Most of those brackets are only held on by mearly "glorified tack welds". I dont post alot on here, but i do read alot. My suggestion is just like some others have pointed out, get under your rig and look at everything to see how it works and how it could break. Reinforce or beef things up so it does not happen again. If the dealer fixed it, its just going to break again. Have fun and wheel safe.
I either fixed it myself or got a buddy to help me out. I knew that I added STRESS on those components from the lift and everything else. Most of those brackets are only held on by mearly "glorified tack welds". I dont post alot on here, but i do read alot. My suggestion is just like some others have pointed out, get under your rig and look at everything to see how it works and how it could break. Reinforce or beef things up so it does not happen again. If the dealer fixed it, its just going to break again. Have fun and wheel safe. Alot of kits, add a track bar relocation bracket in the position where the track bar mounts to the axle. Alot of suspension manufacturers are closing their eyes on this one and continue to ship their kits with these brackets. The track bar's job is to keep the axle in place, left to right, putting alot of force on that bracket and weld even without the relocation bracket. The relocation bracket multilplies those forces on the stock bracket.
The dealer's job is to restore your Jeep to it's original condition and are not responsible for beefing your Jeep or anyone else's Jeep. If they did that, you can expect it to fail again, as the stock design is just not strong enough to cope with the additional strain on the original brackets and welds. The problem for you is that next time, it may be at a very bad time or place.
Do a search and you will see alot of these failures and alot of people having beefed them up. I ran into a fellow JKer just a few weeks after lifting my Jeep and he told me about his bracket failiing and showed me the beef-up job ORE did for him. Wow, much much beefier. I spent the next two weekends under my Jeep adding gussets to my axle.
Save yourself some future stress and aggrevation and learn a little about the known weaknesses of the JK and do a little proactive reinforcement. Here's another, its been known that the upper axle C's are too thin and ought to be beefed up.
Any any any vehicle that gets modified heavily (like a 4" lift and 35s) is gonna show some weakness, that's a 4 wheeling fact and a reason the aftermarket is so huge, us Jeepers are forever fixing the next weakest link.
peace
While I tend to agree with you the real responsibility lies with the manufacturer of the lift selling parts known to create stress failures and/or the dealer that installed them.
I think there should be disclaimers noting the known problem/weak link not just the disclaimer disavowing responsibility for any problem related to their products. I realize that in order for some small businesses to stay alive without super high insurance costs they must needs disavow any problem, but self-responsibility should also dictate full disclosure once weaknesses are found out.
And to the guy getting the freebee, good going bud, you just kicked a company on its last legs in the groin.
While I tend to agree with you the real responsibility lies with the manufacturer of the lift selling parts known to create stress failures and/or the dealer that installed them.
I think there should be disclaimers noting the known problem/weak link not just the disclaimer disavowing responsibility for any problem related to their products. I realize that in order for some small businesses to stay alive without super high insurance costs they must needs disavow any problem, but self-responsibility should also dictate full disclosure once weaknesses are found out.
And to the guy getting the freebee, good going bud, you just kicked a company on its last legs in the groin.
I think there should be disclaimers noting the known problem/weak link not just the disclaimer disavowing responsibility for any problem related to their products. I realize that in order for some small businesses to stay alive without super high insurance costs they must needs disavow any problem, but self-responsibility should also dictate full disclosure once weaknesses are found out.
And to the guy getting the freebee, good going bud, you just kicked a company on its last legs in the groin.
could be...most manufacturers have attempted to rectify this. Either way, it still shouldn't be thrown into Chryslers lap...just my .02
RC: Thanks for explaining that. I also always say that i am very new to all of this. I had no idea bout the weak weld issues. I would have had it beefed up as soon as i did the lift. Well i just got my jeep back and it looks great. all welded up and strong. now i guess ill look into if i need to do this to any other parts. This could of really sucked if it happened out in the Barrens somewhere.


