Back seat is down, I don't carry hot if I have someone in the back, Jus me in the jeep, I carry hot when I feel the need (buzzin down hwy no need for hot, unless some jackass wants me to pull over, by then,,, it's hot n in my hand). (In the city or on trail, HOT)

 

 

Dave/Tim...the weather is starting to get better. You guys still interested in hitting the outdoor shooting range (Usery/Rio Salado) ?

 

I'll take a pic of my firearm in the center console. There's a pocket inside that fits my 26 perfectly!

 

That would be cool, and to the Original P., Any place you can figure out that is comfortable for you while sittin in the jeep will work. Also practice pullin it, jus like practice shootin it, anytime I hit the trail I try to pull it and fire it (with nobody around so we don't have a accident). Gotta get your reflexes use to where it is and using it.

 

In Florida, the law (today) is that, without a concealed carry permit you must "secure" the gun in you vehicle. It does NOT have to be locked but it has to be in a closed container (not visable) such as a glove box, center console or closed holster. The exception for shotguns and rifles when traveling to/from hunting is you can have it in a gun rack in the rear window. With a concealed carry permit, you can also have it on your person. I have a Tuffy concealed carry drawer under my driver seat for those times when I can't carry (going into post office, bar, court house, school, etc). That way I'm always certain the do-badders won't end up with it.
http://www.tuffyproducts.com/p-282-2...ty-drawer.aspx

Florida Law (excerpt):
2011 Florida Statue 790.25 Lawful ownership, possession, and use of firearms and other weapons.—
(5) POSSESSION IN PRIVATE CONVEYANCE.—Notwithstanding subsection (2), it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use. Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorize the carrying of a concealed firearm or other weapon on the person. This subsection shall be liberally construed in favor of the lawful use, ownership, and possession of firearms and other weapons, including lawful self-defense as provided in s. 776.012

Each state's laws are different and subject to change with every court case.

The most basic human right, the first mentioned of the "unalienable Rights" in the US Declaration of Independence is the right to LIFE. If you have a right to LIFE then it follows that you need the ability to protect your LIFE.

http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/


"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)


~~~~~~~ Additional Reading on Self Defense ~~~~~~~

Don't cherish the Second Amendment!
http://lewrockwell.com/orig3/victor5.1.1.html

Why the gun is civilization...
http://corneredcat.com/Why_the_Gun_is_Civilization/


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Anyone know of a holster that would fit inside the center console attached to the drivers side with the barrel pointed down and the handle aft, in a natural righty grab position?

 

We still have some freedom's left before we get like you Canadian's!

 

Any news yet on if this will fit in the jks or not?

 

As an Texan living in Canada, I can say I really miss my pistols (.22 Baretta Neos and a Rock Island .45) Canadians really don't understand the gun thing, but I always appreciated my right to carry a firearm and defend myself and my family. Now, I just follow Teddy's advise - walk softly and carry a big stick.

In Alberta pepper spray is considered a deadly weapon and is illegal.

All that being said - I'm not a real fan of the under sterring holster, or even keeping my pistol between the seats - I'd rather have it just under the front of the seat or concealed just behind the seat or between the weat and door - I hate visible firearms in vehicles...