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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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Since there are no hubs to unlock on the JK I wouldn't replace my driveshaft with anything after market. That cv joint they use is not designed to be in used at highway speeds for prolonged periods of time. I have seen what happens to full size trucks when they don't put their hubs in freewheel also, the same thing that happens to JKs, the t-case blows up when the joint fails.
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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I followed the guide on the Project JK site. I didn't use the dust cover off the oem b/c it wasn't the same size so I knew it would just spin around.

The only problem we had was our 1 1/8 inch socket didn't have a thin enough wall to install the pinion nut. We were calling around trying to find someone with a thin wall 1 1/8 inch socket but ended up trying a 1 1/8 impact socket and it fit!
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by genesbro
Since there are no hubs to unlock on the JK I wouldn't replace my driveshaft with anything after market. That cv joint they use is not designed to be in used at highway speeds for prolonged periods of time. I have seen what happens to full size trucks when they don't put their hubs in freewheel also, the same thing that happens to JKs, the t-case blows up when the joint fails.
Wow. This is the first time anybody has told me that. The reason I was installing the new driveshaft is because of the clearance issues with the exhaust cross over and the 4 inch lift. Right now I can just barely get a finger between the DS and the crossover. I haven't done any wheeling because of that issue. Thanks for the heads up.
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by genesbro
Since there are no hubs to unlock on the JK I wouldn't replace my driveshaft with anything after market. That cv joint they use is not designed to be in used at highway speeds for prolonged periods of time. I have seen what happens to full size trucks when they don't put their hubs in freewheel also, the same thing that happens to JKs, the t-case blows up when the joint fails.
Uh what??? What is the difference in that joint and the one on the rear?
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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I think a lot of people would keep the stock driveshaft if they could it is very strong it just doesn't to well with extreme angles. I to have never heard this?
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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I've never heard of this either. I guess your other option is to run your stock shaft at extreme angles until the seal breaks, seizes and blows up your T-Case.
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 07:23 PM
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Make sure you have the correct tools, follow instructions, and you'll be fine. I did my replacement Coast 1310 front ds in a parking lot in Moab.

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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 07:30 PM
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On full size trucks there is no cv joint in the rear, only in the front. We are constantly having people who don't unlock their hubs come in and complaining of a vibration and that joint is in the process of failing. When it totally fails the vibration gets so bad that it tears the tcase apart. So we have to remind them to keep the hubs unlocked on the highway. Most of them have automatic hubs that are vaccum controlled and when they get a leak they will lock them in manually and just leave them.

The stock JK joints are designed so they won't have that type of failure. It would be nice if the after market people could make the longer shafts so that we could use the factory style joints and avoid the risk to our tcase. I know the automatics have a spot where the stock shaft can experience boot snag and then a tear. I think from pictures I have seen that spot can be trimmed off without affecting the pan which is what I would do.

If you have to use after market shafts just be sure and check that cv joint reguarlly. If you can grab it and move it in any direction then it is going bad. The bad part is when that dang joint goes bad the shops that replace them will charge so much that you might as well just buy another new shaft. We had found a shop here that would replace them for us and after getting the bill back from them on that one we don't get them repaired any longer, we just order a new one from the vehicle manufacturer.

So just keep an eye on the cv joint when that is the way you have to go in order to get the length you need. Some of them have a spot where you use the needle type of grease fitting to help prolong the life of that ball in the middle where the failure occurs at. If yours has that fitting be sure and keep it greased at each oil change at least.
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by genesbro
On full size trucks there is no cv joint in the rear, only in the front. We are constantly having people who don't unlock their hubs come in and complaining of a vibration and that joint is in the process of failing. When it totally fails the vibration gets so bad that it tears the tcase apart. So we have to remind them to keep the hubs unlocked on the highway. Most of them have automatic hubs that are vaccum controlled and when they get a leak they will lock them in manually and just leave them.

The stock JK joints are designed so they won't have that type of failure. It would be nice if the after market people could make the longer shafts so that we could use the factory style joints and avoid the risk to our tcase. I know the automatics have a spot where the stock shaft can experience boot snag and then a tear. I think from pictures I have seen that spot can be trimmed off without affecting the pan which is what I would do.

If you have to use after market shafts just be sure and check that cv joint reguarlly. If you can grab it and move it in any direction then it is going bad. The bad part is when that dang joint goes bad the shops that replace them will charge so much that you might as well just buy another new shaft. We had found a shop here that would replace them for us and after getting the bill back from them on that one we don't get them repaired any longer, we just order a new one from the vehicle manufacturer.

So just keep an eye on the cv joint when that is the way you have to go in order to get the length you need. Some of them have a spot where you use the needle type of grease fitting to help prolong the life of that ball in the middle where the failure occurs at. If yours has that fitting be sure and keep it greased at each oil change at least.
Genesbro, my rookie may be showing but I have to ask...this double-cardan style driveshaft is considered a cv joint? I went on BillaVista.com-Driveshaft Bible Tech Article by BillaVista and it looks to be the case. I thought that the double-cardan style u-joint would be a superior option to the traditional cv jont we are all used to. I have added the u-joint check to the list of PMs to do on the Jeep. Thank you for the insight.
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Wads13
Make sure you have the correct tools, follow instructions, and you'll be fine. I did my replacement Coast 1310 front ds in a parking lot in Moab.

Wads13, I have the write up from Project-JK in the box ready to go I got lucky and am going to be able to use my Dads lift. He built drag boats back in the day so i have access to his tools as well.

Changing out a driveshaft in Moab sounds like fun given the circumstances were favorable and was by choice not by Murphy's Law. Even then, its the stories and friends that make the adventure
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