JCR OFF ROAD JK rear fender flares install issue
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Unfortunately, I don't live in MD anymore. Otherwise, I'd install them for you. JCR uses CNC bending and welds in fixtures. The parts come out the same every time. Often times, a lot of force is required.
This is why I gave the example of corner armor. If I put a metalcloak Exo skin armor up to your jeep and pressed it flat against the rear corner, it would sit about 2" off the body where it lays by the front door. Once bolted down, it's perfect. Metal bends. One side will give and it will fit great.
My other point is that many exterior mods will forever change the body of the Jeep. So, whatever you're worried about is worth it to offset eating a tree.
This is why I gave the example of corner armor. If I put a metalcloak Exo skin armor up to your jeep and pressed it flat against the rear corner, it would sit about 2" off the body where it lays by the front door. Once bolted down, it's perfect. Metal bends. One side will give and it will fit great.
My other point is that many exterior mods will forever change the body of the Jeep. So, whatever you're worried about is worth it to offset eating a tree.
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You are not alone! I too have had the EXACT same problem. The flange will not contact the body and the outer skin contacts it about a 1/2" before the mounting flange. The place where this contact is taking place means that the bottom front portion of the fender is kicked out about 1" thus not allowing you to get a bolt started. You can of course start with the front first but then you cant get the rears started (think of a see saw). In my case, I did try to mount (all bolts loose so that I could maneuver the fender) and that outer skin no matter how you tried would try to crease the sheet metal of the Jeep and I could see a wrinkle in the tub if I began tightening the fender down. So yes, it is a great deal more of a problem than just scuffed paint.
I have contacted JCR about this and have been working with them to resolve.
Just know that @jckracke is not alone. I too have come into contact with others that have had the same problem and I am talking with them now on how they are working to solve it as well. As of right now I have not met with anyone that has this problem that has found a solution other than a great deal of grinding on the fenders to make it work.
Just for reference, I too have installed PSP, metalcloak, and others and I can tell you that yes, if you are trying to install them on a 2007 that has already seen a great deal of offroad duty and flexing, you are likely going to have a bit of fun. In my case, this install is taking place on a 2014 that was recently purchased new.
I know photos would help and I will post up soon. Honestly I did not want to jump on a forum and start bashing a product or a company before working with them to resolve. I know JCR has a great reputation and other great products. I just wanted to chime in and say that @jckracke is not alone. I am hopeful that we can work with JCR to come to a solution.
I have contacted JCR about this and have been working with them to resolve.
Just know that @jckracke is not alone. I too have come into contact with others that have had the same problem and I am talking with them now on how they are working to solve it as well. As of right now I have not met with anyone that has this problem that has found a solution other than a great deal of grinding on the fenders to make it work.
Just for reference, I too have installed PSP, metalcloak, and others and I can tell you that yes, if you are trying to install them on a 2007 that has already seen a great deal of offroad duty and flexing, you are likely going to have a bit of fun. In my case, this install is taking place on a 2014 that was recently purchased new.
I know photos would help and I will post up soon. Honestly I did not want to jump on a forum and start bashing a product or a company before working with them to resolve. I know JCR has a great reputation and other great products. I just wanted to chime in and say that @jckracke is not alone. I am hopeful that we can work with JCR to come to a solution.
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You are not alone! I too have had the EXACT same problem. The flange will not contact the body and the outer skin contacts it about a 1/2" before the mounting flange. The place where this contact is taking place means that the bottom front portion of the fender is kicked out about 1" thus not allowing you to get a bolt started. You can of course start with the front first but then you cant get the rears started (think of a see saw). In my case, I did try to mount (all bolts loose so that I could maneuver the fender) and that outer skin no matter how you tried would try to crease the sheet metal of the Jeep and I could see a wrinkle in the tub if I began tightening the fender down. So yes, it is a great deal more of a problem than just scuffed paint.
I have contacted JCR about this and have been working with them to resolve.
Just know that @jckracke is not alone. I too have come into contact with others that have had the same problem and I am talking with them now on how they are working to solve it as well. As of right now I have not met with anyone that has this problem that has found a solution other than a great deal of grinding on the fenders to make it work.
Just for reference, I too have installed PSP, metalcloak, and others and I can tell you that yes, if you are trying to install them on a 2007 that has already seen a great deal of offroad duty and flexing, you are likely going to have a bit of fun. In my case, this install is taking place on a 2014 that was recently purchased new.
I know photos would help and I will post up soon. Honestly I did not want to jump on a forum and start bashing a product or a company before working with them to resolve. I know JCR has a great reputation and other great products. I just wanted to chime in and say that @jckracke is not alone. I am hopeful that we can work with JCR to come to a solution.
I have contacted JCR about this and have been working with them to resolve.
Just know that @jckracke is not alone. I too have come into contact with others that have had the same problem and I am talking with them now on how they are working to solve it as well. As of right now I have not met with anyone that has this problem that has found a solution other than a great deal of grinding on the fenders to make it work.
Just for reference, I too have installed PSP, metalcloak, and others and I can tell you that yes, if you are trying to install them on a 2007 that has already seen a great deal of offroad duty and flexing, you are likely going to have a bit of fun. In my case, this install is taking place on a 2014 that was recently purchased new.
I know photos would help and I will post up soon. Honestly I did not want to jump on a forum and start bashing a product or a company before working with them to resolve. I know JCR has a great reputation and other great products. I just wanted to chime in and say that @jckracke is not alone. I am hopeful that we can work with JCR to come to a solution.
I was told by Allen at JCR to loosely install the bolts and everything will be fine. I just couldn't see that making any difference. Now That I have heard your experience I know not to even bother trying.
I'm not trying to bash a company. I just know of my difficulties and others with the same thing with a product that we spent a lot of our money on. Maybe if we work together there can be a resolution.
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I've heard many times never to buy anything JCR. I guess you have confirmed I shouldn't. Saw this while googling their fenders.
Edit: I know nothing about this pic, just found it funny
Edit: I know nothing about this pic, just found it funny
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I've heard many times never to buy anything JCR. I guess you have confirmed I shouldn't. Saw this while googling their fenders. Attachment 632116
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I've often found forums like this to be useful when researching a subject or asking for help. There are a lot of good people on here that are more than willing to share some knowledge or experience. I've learned a lot from perusing and asking questions. I've even shared some of what I have learned with others.
I don't have these fenders, I like my Bushwackers, for now, but prefer a tube fender like Poison Spyder anyway. But I have a number of JCR products and all of them have been a perfect install with no issues, and all have performed flawlessly on the trail. And yes, I wheel my Jeep. Plenty of dings and scraps on the sliders and bumpers to prove it. My only complaint is the powder coater they were using when I bought my sliders sucked at powder coating. Peeling everywhere.
I can't speak for this specific product. I've only seen them on Jeeps and have never installed them myself. They looked good on those Jeeps, maybe they were a bear to get on. And maybe there is an issue with this particular set. They are hand made, for what it's worth. I'm sure there are some tolerance issues now and again. If you have to grind them a little, then grind them, repaint that piece, install them, enjoy them, and move on. If you don't have the tools to do that, find someone to help.
Am I the only one that finds it suspect that 90% of this member's posts are about his negative experience with a JCR product?
And now he seems to be happy that this thread comes up in Google search results? But, no, he's not trying to bash a company.
But now this thread has moved from what seemed to be a less-than-honest "please help me" thread to an all out bash on JCR.
If it smells like BS ......
What's the definition of a troll again?
I don't have these fenders, I like my Bushwackers, for now, but prefer a tube fender like Poison Spyder anyway. But I have a number of JCR products and all of them have been a perfect install with no issues, and all have performed flawlessly on the trail. And yes, I wheel my Jeep. Plenty of dings and scraps on the sliders and bumpers to prove it. My only complaint is the powder coater they were using when I bought my sliders sucked at powder coating. Peeling everywhere.
I can't speak for this specific product. I've only seen them on Jeeps and have never installed them myself. They looked good on those Jeeps, maybe they were a bear to get on. And maybe there is an issue with this particular set. They are hand made, for what it's worth. I'm sure there are some tolerance issues now and again. If you have to grind them a little, then grind them, repaint that piece, install them, enjoy them, and move on. If you don't have the tools to do that, find someone to help.
Am I the only one that finds it suspect that 90% of this member's posts are about his negative experience with a JCR product?
And now he seems to be happy that this thread comes up in Google search results? But, no, he's not trying to bash a company.
But now this thread has moved from what seemed to be a less-than-honest "please help me" thread to an all out bash on JCR.
If it smells like BS ......
What's the definition of a troll again?
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I've often found forums like this to be useful when researching a subject or asking for help. There are a lot of good people on here that are more than willing to share some knowledge or experience. I've learned a lot from perusing and asking questions. I've even shared some of what I have learned with others.
I don't have these fenders, I like my Bushwackers, for now, but prefer a tube fender like Poison Spyder anyway. But I have a number of JCR products and all of them have been a perfect install with no issues, and all have performed flawlessly on the trail. And yes, I wheel my Jeep. Plenty of dings and scraps on the sliders and bumpers to prove it. My only complaint is the powder coater they were using when I bought my sliders sucked at powder coating. Peeling everywhere.
I can't speak for this specific product. I've only seen them on Jeeps and have never installed them myself. They looked good on those Jeeps, maybe they were a bear to get on. And maybe there is an issue with this particular set. They are hand made, for what it's worth. I'm sure there are some tolerance issues now and again. If you have to grind them a little, then grind them, repaint that piece, install them, enjoy them, and move on. If you don't have the tools to do that, find someone to help.
Am I the only one that finds it suspect that 90% of this member's posts are about his negative experience with a JCR product?
And now he seems to be happy that this thread comes up in Google search results? But, no, he's not trying to bash a company.
But now this thread has moved from what seemed to be a less-than-honest "please help me" thread to an all out bash on JCR.
If it smells like BS ......
What's the definition of a troll again?
I don't have these fenders, I like my Bushwackers, for now, but prefer a tube fender like Poison Spyder anyway. But I have a number of JCR products and all of them have been a perfect install with no issues, and all have performed flawlessly on the trail. And yes, I wheel my Jeep. Plenty of dings and scraps on the sliders and bumpers to prove it. My only complaint is the powder coater they were using when I bought my sliders sucked at powder coating. Peeling everywhere.
I can't speak for this specific product. I've only seen them on Jeeps and have never installed them myself. They looked good on those Jeeps, maybe they were a bear to get on. And maybe there is an issue with this particular set. They are hand made, for what it's worth. I'm sure there are some tolerance issues now and again. If you have to grind them a little, then grind them, repaint that piece, install them, enjoy them, and move on. If you don't have the tools to do that, find someone to help.
Am I the only one that finds it suspect that 90% of this member's posts are about his negative experience with a JCR product?
And now he seems to be happy that this thread comes up in Google search results? But, no, he's not trying to bash a company.
But now this thread has moved from what seemed to be a less-than-honest "please help me" thread to an all out bash on JCR.
If it smells like BS ......
What's the definition of a troll again?
I started this thread asking if anyone has installed these fenders. Not once did I say "please help". I am a professional mechanic and have the ability and know how to make the modification that MIGHT make these fit ok. I was looking if people have had issues or have successfully installed them. The sales guy said no grinding should be necessary but that is what others are doing. JCR tech said looking at my pics they are built right. There is a contradiction. I don't know why you have commented at all because you said you personally have had no experience with these fenders.