I have read many threads tonight on the performance chips/programmers, and it seems there is no real consensus between the members.

Are there any users of the Jet Stage 1, Hypertech Programmer or Superchips flashpaq here, and which of the above do you recommend.

I am after performance, but if I cannot get that reduced fuel consumption would be REALLY great! (Doing about 330km per tank, 95 unleaded).

 

I have a Jet Chip 1 with a KN drop in air filter, Gibson single exhaust in my Rubicon. I see no fuel mileage increase, no noticable power increase, but the auto trans seems to shift alittle different (better). Won't buy again, I would like a Superchip.

 

I can only speak to the SC Flashpaq, but I think JPop has had both the Hypertech and the Flashpaq. I vote Flashpaq!

 

Hi what kind of differences have you seen with the Flashpaq? That is also a viable option for me.

 

Here is the most comprehensive Superchip thread on the forum:

https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/modified-jk-tech-2/superchips-flashpaq-jk-initial-impressions-80188/

 

I've read pretty much all the stuff that's posted on these forums about programmers and I do believe there is a consensus on what does and doesn't work.

The Jet stuff doesn't seem to work for much of anyone and the consensus is that is does nothing. Automatic transmission shift points are the one positive.

The Hypertech is a mixed bag, some getting performance and some not. Stock JKs and automatic transmission users seem to get the biggest gains while 6 speed and upgraded Jeeps get little to no boost in performance.

The Superchips seemingly gets the best reviews with nearly no one who hasn't had a noticeable gain in performance. Owners of both the Hypertech and the Superchips are as far as I know are all in line behind the Superchips based on their performance results.

If I were shopping for a programmer today, I would buy the Superchips, second on the list would be a used Hypertech and I wouldn't even consider the Jet programmer. A used Hypertech probably presents a good value and seemingly they have stepped things up a bit with updates. I no longer own my Hypertech, so I really can't comment on how much better it now does. Just the same, I wouldn't buy the Hypertech MaxEnergy and I would wait for another offering from them if I were going to purchase new.

I hope that helps a bit and best of luck with however you decide to roll.

 

IMHO, you get the "tuners" for the automatic transmission shift points. The few hp/tq you gain is not going to be noticeable nor will you get MPG out of it, because, it's psychological and you'll try to drive harder and faster just because you think you gained power.

I have the AEV ProCal because I know what it's doing for me. Change the gear ratio and tire size plus the other electrical features it has. TPMS being turned off, high-idle, etc.

You can't expect gains from simple bolt-ons and a chip. This isn't a V8 nor is it forced induced.

 

Thanks it seems that Flashpaq is the accepted one. Now to find a dealer that will ship outside of the US to the UK!

 

JPop,

Let me pick your brain here for a second. I know a lot about the AEV ProCal as a member in my local club has one and I've read extensivly about them. It seems to be the best "bang for the buck" as it does the basics that any modder needs in adjusting the odometer/spedomoter and, on an auto, the sift points.

What does the SuperChips FlashPaq do that the ProCal does not that makes it worth the bonus money? Does it advance the timing and change the fuel air mix electronically? I'm trying to decide if I should K.I.S.S. and get the ProCal or spend the extra dollars (since I'm spending anyway) on the Hypertech.

 

I think looking at raw numbers of power gains don't tell the whole story as compared to looking at percentage of increases. I've done my own tests, with my own set of hard numbers presented by data logging via the Superchips and pencil and paper mpg calculations. Both range in the 10%+ range of performance and efficiency. I don't need to drive at WOT to feel the difference and it isn't a placebo effect.

Ask me about my former programmer and I'll tell you straight up that I didn't notice anything. No matter how hard I tried and how much tinkering I did to get something I couldn't wrap my head around anything tangible. The Superchips Flashpaq was a far different experience and I couldn't be much happier with the experience.

I think it's totally remiss to make the statement that there are gains to be had by adopting new shift points but they aren't obtainable by changing fuel trim, manifold pressure adjustments and spark advance. I'll be the first to admit that you aren't going to experience 50 or 60 hp increases with a collection of these bolt ons and programmers. What you can experience is 10%+ gains in performance that is sizable whether you're running a 565ci big block or a 200hp V6.

I also believe there is more than enough disinformation out there as to setting an appropriate level of expectations for any of these upgrades. The great CAI debate is one for example where you simply aren't going to bolt on performance without doing it in tandem with an exhaust. The throttle body (not a spacer) becomes the limiting factor, but clearly there is more power to be gained, albeit nominal. I also don't believe you receive the full benefit from them unless you make use of a programmer which has the wherewithal to make provisions for other than stock components and how the powertrain control module makes adjustments.

So for me, I'm quite happy and I have collected enough data to validate both my performance and decision. Certainly there are things I would have done different, but for less than $800 I can breath new life into a stock JK which increases performance, efficiency and the drivability.