I read the same post... ...and in post #33, I talked about 4" lift and 35"s, vs 3.5" and 37"s :
Is this any clearer now?

 

He compares everything to "his" set up because it is the best set up anyone has come up with to date.

 

We are leaving NY for OK next year where there is a 4 wheel parts and I think I will change/upgrade my ball joints and add the axle armor to be safer. I was going to add 1 3/4" via coil spacer, but when I added the 3/4" spacer it changed my ride, for the better, but I am not guaranteed that doing another 1" in height will have that same effect. Doing it via body lift just seemed safer as far as ride characteristics. The one I got has a bumper relocation bracket so there is no bumper gap and a shifter relocation too to fix the shifting issue with body lifts.
I want to put it on now, but I am not getting 37s till these tires wear out and that'll be a year at least. I don't want to put the body lift on and then find out its too high for my tires (cosmetically) and I have drive around being the guy with the too much lift and too little tires syndrome, as I'll be at 4.5" total after it is put on.

 

I have never been a fan of flat fenders, but you may have just changed my mind--like seriously. That is a sweet ride!

 

What bugs you? What's this personal attack for?!

My opinion happens to coincide with the very common 4" lift and 35"s, which are so common for quite a few good reason, and, believe it or not, I invented none of them...

FYI:
I didn't install 4" and 35", and than started justifying it...
I studied the issue, drove Jeeps with various combinations and read a lot, before deciding on 4" & 35"s.
It was a very calculated and considered decision.
And, guess what... ...neither the experience with different Jeeps, nor the facts I learned in advance, have changed ...regardless of which lift or wheels I have...

You're entitled to any different opinion, you're not entitled to personal attacks.

 

My set up ain't too bad on 37". And my jeep has no issues what so ever.

Lol


You better watch where you're going and remember where you been.

 

OK - I now understand why your math was confusing me.
So, you think it's better to gain clearance from a lift rather than tires?
I understand tires will put added stress on drivetrain, , but adding more lift can do more harm in terms of handling, and you won't gain any axle clearance

So you would recommend 35’s and a 4" lift over 37’s and a 3" lift? I'm not saying one is right or wrong, but more advice seems to lean towards less lift, and larger tires.

 

"So, you think it's better to gain clearance from a lift rather than tires?"

No. I think that it should be a combination of both.
Like in many other issues, the question is where to draw the line, which combination to choose.
Generally, there are two trends, one in favor of less lift & larger tires, the other is more lift & somewhat smaller tires.
Both ways have advantages and disadvantages, and preferring one approach over the other may be a subjective decision -- like most of the decisions made in life.
I'm just sorry to see some people flame over other peoples' views...

Yes, 37"s lift the differentials 1" more than 35"s, and no lift can change that. The question is whether this 1", at those two specific points, is more - or less - important than other things, and here we enter the realm of personal preferences again.

As for handling -
With 4" lift on 35"s, my Jeep (and some other Jeeps I drove), handle better than a stock Jeep.

When I said that on another thread here, some people became emotional and aggressive, and I was attacked exactly like what you read earlier here - "He compares everything to "his" set up because it is the best set up anyone has come up with to date."... (even though he read me say how I could improve on the suspension I have...)
I tried emergency maneuvers with the Rubi when it was all stock, and again after the wheels & lift, on & off road.
In spite of the higher COG, the wider stance and tire type resulted in improved handling vs stock.
IF the result was worse handling, I wouldn't have tolerated it and would have replaced the mods ASAP.
I had test-driven, in advance, the same model Jeep, with the lift & wheel size that I latter installed on mine, so I knew exactly what I was going to get.

I think that the criticism on the handling of 4" lifted Jeeps comes mainly from people whose' suspension (and/or steering) are not properly installed or tuned.

All this regards a 4-dr. If I had a shorter JK, maybe I'd have taken 37"s and 2.5"~3" lift.

 

So... after you climb in, you pull the ladder up and throw it at the back?

Oh -- and nice color match of the ladder to the orange markers!

 

Lol. No that's what I have to use to wash it properly. I can hop in there. It's not too bad.


You better watch where you're going and remember where you been.