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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 11:51 PM
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I don't wanna be a thread hijacker, but after much deliberation, I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on trutracs in both the front and rear. I live in colorado, drive in snow half the year but also like to do some decent wheeling in the summer. If anyone has this setup, and have input, maybe it will help both, the original poster and myself make a more educated decision
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 02:18 AM
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I have Auburn LSD in my 98 Cherokee that replaced one of those lunch box lockers, and it works well with that wheel base. The lunch box locker was horrible with torque steer, and overall handling.
With my 2 dr JK I am going to use some kind of selectable locker. I think an Auto locker with my short wheel base would be a hand full.
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 02:24 AM
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I have both rear & front lockers (Rubi). I use them only when absolutely necessary.
When I do lock, I find the rear one usually more useful.
The typical situations are when climbing slippery stuff, or when the front wheels start digging in and the rear locker helps reversing out of it.
I lock both for crossing a stream, if I'm not sure what's under the water.

Over here, the ARB lockers are the preferred ones. From what I see on other Jeeps, they are reliable & tough.

No wonder that offroad products from Australia are good. Offroading is a way of life there.
I've got 3 Aussies on the Jeep... ARB front bumper, ARB twin-head compressor and Red Arc dual battery smart isolator -- all are very well made.

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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MangoWilly
I don't wanna be a thread hijacker, but after much deliberation, I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on trutracs in both the front and rear. I live in colorado, drive in snow half the year but also like to do some decent wheeling in the summer. If anyone has this setup, and have input, maybe it will help both, the original poster and myself make a more educated decision
I run dual True Trac LSDs on my DD and think its a great setup for moderate wheeling. Living in the eastern half of TN wheeling here runs from mud, trails to rocks and as long as your not hanging a wheel in the air on a regular basis it'll handle it without issue. On the road you'll never even know they are there. Cost wise I was able to do both ends for about the cost of a selectable for the rear. So while not a setup for the hard core crowd, the moderate weekend warrior would be well served with the true tracs

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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by slider_68

I run dual True Trac LSDs on my DD and think its a great setup for moderate wheeling. Living in the eastern half of TN wheeling here runs from mud, trails to rocks and as long as your not hanging a wheel in the air on a regular basis it'll handle it without issue. On the road you'll never even know they are there. Cost wise I was able to do both ends for about the cost of a selectable for the rear. So while not a setup for the hard core crowd, the moderate weekend warrior would be well served with the true tracs
I would stay away from these in snowy icy climates however. They engage while your spinning a tire on ice and its loop out city in a flash.
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kojack
I would stay away from these in snowy icy climates however. They engage while your spinning a tire on ice and its loop out city in a flash.
A Truetrac LSD is supposed to be benign and transparent on snow or ice covered roads, unlike a locker.
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Kojack

I would stay away from these in snowy icy climates however. They engage while your spinning a tire on ice and its loop out city in a flash.
Really? ? I was hoping that the constant traction on all four tires would be exceptional in snowy and semi-icy terrain? Having "two wheel drive" (one in the front, one in the back) spinning while you are trying to accelerate from the stop light just don't cut it.. and leaves you looking like a fool, haha. I know from experience.
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Kojack
I would stay away from these in snowy icy climates however. They engage while your spinning a tire on ice and its loop out city in a flash.
This is false. I have them front and rear.
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MangoWilly
I don't wanna be a thread hijacker, but after much deliberation, I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on trutracs in both the front and rear. I live in colorado, drive in snow half the year but also like to do some decent wheeling in the summer. If anyone has this setup, and have input, maybe it will help both, the original poster and myself make a more educated decision
For what it's worth, I have front and rear truetrac's and I am very happy. I originally got them when I lived in Oregon to take up to the snow where they preformed great and didn't have plans for a major rock crawler. I also have a dana30 up front and didn't want to chance it with a locker.

Then I moved to socal and have taken them from Moab to the Rubicon Trail, and they have yet to let me down. Granted you have to be more strategic when choosing a line compared to someone with lockers.

I have no plans of upgrading to lockers.

Hope that helps.
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MangoWilly
Really? ? I was hoping that the constant traction on all four tires would be exceptional in snowy and semi-icy terrain? Having "two wheel drive" (one in the front, one in the back) spinning while you are trying to accelerate from the stop light just don't cut it.. and leaves you looking like a fool, haha. I know from experience.
With all four wheels locked for true four wheel drive steering becomes a problem on surfaces with low traction the vehicle wants to go straight because the outside wheel cannot turn faster than the inside wheel, and if you suddenly came upon good traction on pavement while locked it would create some serious binding issues. This is why Chrysler has the lockers only available for use in lowrange. Lockers in snow or ice are fine offroad or at a slow speed. At any rate if you can afford them selectable lockers are the best of both worlds you never here anyone say they don't like there selectable lockers and they are pulling them out to put automatics in.
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