M.O.R.E. Jeep JK Wrangler 1" Body Lift - NOW AVAILABLE!!
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I think I'm subconciously trying to set a thread derail record this month, but this cable thing has me wondering. Is it a loop with pulleys? I'm trying to wrap my head around this. It seems like a cable would work just fine pulling, but not so hot pushing?
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Why? It's just a basic 1" body lift?
But who ever said that a body lift should be installed as an alternative to a suspension lift? If you read my press release, I think I clearly stated that it can be a great compliment to one.
I don't know about you but every 1" body lift that I have installed has only taken me 45mins - 1hr to do. Every budget boost I have installed has taken 2-3 hours. But then, as I said before, a body lift should not be used as an alternative to a suspension lift. Also, for whatever it's worth, I have in the past used a 1" body lift in conjunction to a 2" BB on my TJ to allow me an economical way to run 32" tires and I still think it was one of the better setups that I ran
With anything over 1", I would have to agree with this but we are talking specifically about a 1" body lift
But who ever said that a body lift should be installed as an alternative to a suspension lift? If you read my press release, I think I clearly stated that it can be a great compliment to one.
I don't know about you but every 1" body lift that I have installed has only taken me 45mins - 1hr to do. Every budget boost I have installed has taken 2-3 hours. But then, as I said before, a body lift should not be used as an alternative to a suspension lift. Also, for whatever it's worth, I have in the past used a 1" body lift in conjunction to a 2" BB on my TJ to allow me an economical way to run 32" tires and I still think it was one of the better setups that I ran
With anything over 1", I would have to agree with this but we are talking specifically about a 1" body lift
I agree with all these points...
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I think that a 1" body lift is a great idea for the TJ. I just don't think that it's necessary for the JK. You can fit such large tires with such small lift it kinda makes you not need that little extra. If someone is going to really use 35" tires offroad, then they will probably want the extra travel and suspension control afforded by replacement coils. They probably won't be satisfied with the stock suspension with spacers and the BL.
M.O.R.E. 1" Body Lift = $144 (4-Door)
Total Tire Clearance = 3.5"
Max Tire Size = 35"
Total Price = $373
Full Traction 2" Econo Lift w/Shocks = $279
M.O.R.E. 1" Body Lift = $144 (4-Door)
Total Tire Clearance = 3"
Max Tire Size = 35"
Total Price = $423
Full Traction 3" Economy Lift w/Hydro Shocks
Max Tire Size = 35"
Total Price = $699
TeraFlex 3" Lift w/Shocks
Max Tire Size = 35"
Total Price = $697
I think the math speaks for itself here
Now if that person then wanted to fit 37's with that extra 1", I can see that.
But for most mild rigs I just don't see where it will fit into most people's plans.
This is all just my opinion. That's what I like about forums. Everyone can give their own opinion and readers can decide what to do for themselves.
And if you don't think that a 1" BL puts more stress on the mounts you're wrong. Ask any engineer.
It may not be as much as taller BLs, but the increase is there. I agree that it is probably an acceptable increase with this small lift, I just wanted to throw it out there.
A lot of uninformed people think that a BL is a Bl is a BL. And that is most certainly not the case.
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You quoted my post about increased travel and then compared prices.
And you can't really compare the 2.5" lift fairly without adding shocks to the price.
The increased stress on the body mount is all about leverage. To make an extreme example, a 6" tall 4x4 piece of wood bolted standing up to the cement will be much harder to knock over than a 6 foot tall 4x4 piece of wood bolted the same way.
Like I said, the 1" lift will add an acceptable amount of increased stress but it is there none the less.
I just don't want anyone reading this thread in 6 months when there is a 3" BL on the market and applying what we say here to that 3" lift.
And you can't really compare the 2.5" lift fairly without adding shocks to the price.
The increased stress on the body mount is all about leverage. To make an extreme example, a 6" tall 4x4 piece of wood bolted standing up to the cement will be much harder to knock over than a 6 foot tall 4x4 piece of wood bolted the same way.
Like I said, the 1" lift will add an acceptable amount of increased stress but it is there none the less.
I just don't want anyone reading this thread in 6 months when there is a 3" BL on the market and applying what we say here to that 3" lift.
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In many cases, the amount of axle articulation you have on a small lift is hampered by your bigger tires eating up your fender flares. The prices reflect how you could achieve more clearance to fit 35" tires (i.e. more clearance for travel) for a lot less money using a BB/BL combo vs. just a suspension lift.
On the contrary, the TeraFlex 2.5" lift comes with shock adapters that allow you to use your factory shocks.
Okay, I think I see where you're coming from but exactly what forces are we talking about here that are being applied to the body of the Jeep and enough so that it would be causing stress? Also, on a body lift, we're talking about 12 mounting points around the entire Jeep that fasten the body to the frame - not just one tall one. Assuming you have your bolts tighten to spec, I personally have a hard time seeing how anything is moving anywhere with such a small amount of lift.
Right, I see where you're coming from. In spite of everything I've said, I would never recommend anything more than a 1" BL. If nothing else, they just look fugly
And you can't really compare the 2.5" lift fairly without adding shocks to the price.
The increased stress on the body mount is all about leverage. To make an extreme example, a 6" tall 4x4 piece of wood bolted standing up to the cement will be much harder to knock over than a 6 foot tall 4x4 piece of wood bolted the same way.
Like I said, the 1" lift will add an acceptable amount of increased stress but it is there none the less.
I just don't want anyone reading this thread in 6 months when there is a 3" BL on the market and applying what we say here to that 3" lift.
I just don't want anyone reading this thread in 6 months when there is a 3" BL on the market and applying what we say here to that 3" lift.
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Okay, I think I see where you're coming from but exactly what forces are we talking about here that are being applied to the body of the Jeep and enough so that it would be causing stress? Also, on a body lift, we're talking about 12 mounting points around the entire Jeep that fasten the body to the frame - not just one tall one. Assuming you have your bolts tighten to spec, I personally have a hard time seeing how anything is moving anywhere with such a small amount of lift.
Most people will NOT check these bolts periodically for torque.
And BTW the factory torque specs were for a certain height body spacer, not that spacer +1".
This was what I was really trying to get across in my later posts.
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Off camber situations, evasive maneuvers, accidents. Those types of forces. Most people will NOT check these bolts periodically for torque. And BTW the factory torque specs were for a certain height body spacer, not that spacer +1".
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Just like a steering cable or shifter cable on a boat. Next time you are in Academy sports or someplace like that, take a look at them. You will get it then.