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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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would the bumpers with the rollers under them help?
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by shredX
If you were burried, how would you run it from the front to the rear?
Very good question!

What I was thinking was to run a short (ie 10') cable from the front to the back that would be attached at the front and the rear. I would leave it there when wheeling. When I get stuck in the snow, I would then detach the front piece, hook it to my winch cable, then pull the cable back out the other side.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BrettDez
My recomendation? Carry a Hi-Lift Jack with you, so when you need to pull at an odd angle, you still can. My winch is my primary means of recovering myself if I am alone. It's the rest of the gear that backs it up. Which is why I carry all my straps/shackles/shovel/hi-lift jack.

The Hi-Lift may not be as easy as a winch, but you can use it for those odd angles.
True, however I can only imagine how much time it would have taken to get myself out of that mess with a Hi-Lift. And who wants to do that much work when I could run a cable backwards and go to town!?
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by scottrock
I've had simliar thoughts on this idea. Found this diagram though it looks to require ALOT of cable and several snatch blocks.


Something to think about.....
Not only does that require a lot of cable/snatch blocks, but it also requires trees or rocks to be in the right places!

Originally Posted by scottrock
I also recall seeing (years ago) a setup on military cargo trucks that used a series of pulleys attached along the undercarriage/framerails that routed the cable from the front mounted winch back to a fairlead mounted in the rear bumper. Very slick!
Now that is exactly what I want. Do you happen to remember where you saw that? I would love to see pictures!

I'm still debating if I want to use a pulley, a roller or a C-channel in the front. I think the C-channel would be easiest, but a pulley or roller might treat the cable better...
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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i agee with Shredx how are you gonna run the cable if your that stuck and by yourself(wich isnt a good idea) you cant leave it ran to the back, what if you need a foward pull. theres a whole lot that i feel could go wrong if its not a straight backward pull. that cable can bend or break anything under there if its against it. go with a buddy or least check out what your driving into next time. im sure your idea can be done but your gonna have to give things to make it work, like ground clearance which nobody wants less of. but if you do find a way let us know. just my
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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I'll dig around for more info. I specifically recall that this was on a 5 ton cargo truck... can't remember the exact nominclature atm but here is something I found whilst digging around online: and now that I think about it.... the winch on that cargo truck may have been a mid-mount on the side of the chassis (it was a big vehicle, lotsa room to do this with) which gets me wondering if there is room for a hyd winch mid-mounted under the Jeep... may have something there...

More food for thought: (note in the pic, the front of the vehicle is that way -------->)


(EN) A winch arrangement fitted to a vehicle chassis (1) comprises a winch (2) mounted at an intermediate position between chassis front end (3) and chassis rear end (4), and a winch cable (5) extended from the winch (2) to a pulley block (6) mounted on the chassis rear end (4). The pulley block (6) turns the cable (5) and the cable is passed through a fore and aft guide member (13) to the chassis front end (3). Stop members (14, 15) are provided to stop recovery of the cable (5) on to the winch (2) in a predetermined position. For rearward winching, the pulley block (6) is dismounted by a removable pin (7) and cable attachment (11) is secured to a load or an anchor point, and for forward winching cable attachment (15) can be pulled out and secured to a load or an anchor point whilst pulley block (6) is left mounted. For simultaneous rearward and forward winching, both cable attachments (11, 15) can be secured to a load or an anchor point.

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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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and i only say hydraulic due to no issues with corrosion on electrical connections... not sure how much of an issue it would be... rocks & trails would be ok (oh, yeah for sure need a skid plate for it!) but a regular mud bogger would probably toast an electric?
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by scottrock
(EN) A winch arrangement fitted to a vehicle chassis (1) comprises a winch (2) mounted at an intermediate position between chassis front end (3) and chassis rear end (4), and a winch cable (5) extended from the winch (2) to a pulley block (6) mounted on the chassis rear end (4). The pulley block (6) turns the cable (5) and the cable is passed through a fore and aft guide member (13) to the chassis front end (3). Stop members (14, 15) are provided to stop recovery of the cable (5) on to the winch (2) in a predetermined position. For rearward winching, the pulley block (6) is dismounted by a removable pin (7) and cable attachment (11) is secured to a load or an anchor point, and for forward winching cable attachment (15) can be pulled out and secured to a load or an anchor point whilst pulley block (6) is left mounted. For simultaneous rearward and forward winching, both cable attachments (11, 15) can be secured to a load or an anchor point.
Wow.... That is quite the diagram there! While it wouldn't work for a front winch, it does give me a few ideas....

Maybe I could look at building a channel that extends from the front all the way to the back of the vehicle. I'll have to take a look and see if it is feasible to route one around the axels in such a way that it doesn't interfere at full articulation.....
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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this has me thinking more towards routing the cable down a frame rail... maybe even inside. Man some of these fabricators around here have GOT to have some ideas here
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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Couldn't you always go the easy route and just mount a winch in the rear?
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