MOPAR lift
JK Junkie
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From: Des Moines, Iowa
2009 early press release by a magazone and 2010 catalog contradict one another. I would say with 99.999% accuracy to refrence the liturature from Mopar that is more up to date, and from them that says it has absolutely no warranty whatsoever. Even the manufacturers of the parts Mopar is rebadging have a better warranty, and a lower price.
JK Newbie
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From: chicago,il
No lift for me
Littlejon, You are totally right. I just talked to my JEEP service manager and he said they will put the lift on for upwards of $2500 but will not sign anything saying it will not void my extended warranty. Since this is my daily driver I just can't run that risk. Guess that means no lift for me. Guess I will just have to max out at a 33" tire and live in envy of the guys with a lift. Does anyone know if my stock Rubi tires (255/75/17) will fit fine on my new Procomp 7005 17 x 9 wheels? I can't splurge for new rubber quite yet. Thanks.
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JK Enthusiast
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From: Olathe, KS
http://www.mo-pod.com/pdf/09_Perform...log-120908.pdf
page 270
http://parts.mopar.com/pdf/warranty.pdf
ok guys let me see if I can break all this down for understanding purposes
The lift kit parts are covered by the manufacturing company. In this case it is Superlift or Rubicon Express. So if a part breaks under their warranty it is replaced by said company.
Yes, part numbers beginning with a "P" are sold "as is" as said in the warrany site and paperwork. If you buy it over the counter and take it home to put it on everything is on you.
Now enter the dealership and vehicle warranty - under the lifetime warranty all MOPAR parts installed by a Crysler tech are covered for workmanship for the lifetime of the vehicle while owned by the original purchaser.
If the dealer installs these lifts you have a few things working for you in tandem. The install is covered by the dealership under the lifetime warranty. So you have a lifetime warranty for parts through the lift manufaturer and a lifetime warranty on workmanship through the dealership who installed it.
The only part to be concerned with is where most people go wrong with warranties in the first place. The Chysler warranty for installed parts also covers parts affected by the installed part/accessory as long as installed by a Chysler tech. This coverage is for defects and quality workmanship - NOT someone rockcrawling the thing causing it to break. If the stuff is "broken" due to undue stress no warranty in the world covers it anyway. This is true of the warranty involving a completely stock, unmodified vehicle in the first place.
In the end, my dealership explained all the above to me and will stand behind the install of a MOPAR lift, if they install it, for warranty defect and workmanship. If i decide to jump it off a cliff (yes exaggerated reference), and it breaks, its obviously on me. And my trust in them comes from getting the same story separately from the new car service manager, the used car service manager, the parts advisor, both parts counter guys, three separate service techs, and the finance manager who sold me the lifetime warranty.
As for the above mention of dealerships marking up the price - if you actually deal with the parts department you will most of the time find you can get the parts at or near what you will find online - only the dealership isnt going to charge shipping, so in most cases you wind up ahead. The spacer lift is 250 bucks from the dealership. Quadretec lists it for 369. (This was why I started the thread by the way) And the other is a full suspension lift including coils, bilstein shocks, track bar, steering stabalizer, basically a high end lift well put together - not bad for 1500 bucks. Of course there will be labor install on top, but I would rather the guys who know what teh heck they are doing install it than me - its worth the labor price for me.
Yes anyone can argue interpretations of the warranties either way or claim the dealership may not honor what the say now later. Such is life in todays world. Even at minimum, I still stand a better chance of having something fixed than if I install a lift in my garage on my own.
Thanks guys for confirming what I thought about who made the lift, which really was the only point in the thread to begin with - apologies for the long post...
page 270
http://parts.mopar.com/pdf/warranty.pdf
ok guys let me see if I can break all this down for understanding purposes
The lift kit parts are covered by the manufacturing company. In this case it is Superlift or Rubicon Express. So if a part breaks under their warranty it is replaced by said company.
Yes, part numbers beginning with a "P" are sold "as is" as said in the warrany site and paperwork. If you buy it over the counter and take it home to put it on everything is on you.
Now enter the dealership and vehicle warranty - under the lifetime warranty all MOPAR parts installed by a Crysler tech are covered for workmanship for the lifetime of the vehicle while owned by the original purchaser.
If the dealer installs these lifts you have a few things working for you in tandem. The install is covered by the dealership under the lifetime warranty. So you have a lifetime warranty for parts through the lift manufaturer and a lifetime warranty on workmanship through the dealership who installed it.
The only part to be concerned with is where most people go wrong with warranties in the first place. The Chysler warranty for installed parts also covers parts affected by the installed part/accessory as long as installed by a Chysler tech. This coverage is for defects and quality workmanship - NOT someone rockcrawling the thing causing it to break. If the stuff is "broken" due to undue stress no warranty in the world covers it anyway. This is true of the warranty involving a completely stock, unmodified vehicle in the first place.
In the end, my dealership explained all the above to me and will stand behind the install of a MOPAR lift, if they install it, for warranty defect and workmanship. If i decide to jump it off a cliff (yes exaggerated reference), and it breaks, its obviously on me. And my trust in them comes from getting the same story separately from the new car service manager, the used car service manager, the parts advisor, both parts counter guys, three separate service techs, and the finance manager who sold me the lifetime warranty.
As for the above mention of dealerships marking up the price - if you actually deal with the parts department you will most of the time find you can get the parts at or near what you will find online - only the dealership isnt going to charge shipping, so in most cases you wind up ahead. The spacer lift is 250 bucks from the dealership. Quadretec lists it for 369. (This was why I started the thread by the way) And the other is a full suspension lift including coils, bilstein shocks, track bar, steering stabalizer, basically a high end lift well put together - not bad for 1500 bucks. Of course there will be labor install on top, but I would rather the guys who know what teh heck they are doing install it than me - its worth the labor price for me.
Yes anyone can argue interpretations of the warranties either way or claim the dealership may not honor what the say now later. Such is life in todays world. Even at minimum, I still stand a better chance of having something fixed than if I install a lift in my garage on my own.
Thanks guys for confirming what I thought about who made the lift, which really was the only point in the thread to begin with - apologies for the long post...
Last edited by Hammer002; May 19, 2010 at 02:57 PM.
JK Junkie
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From: Des Moines, Iowa
Like I said before if you can get your local dealer to put that they will warranty any item they install from the Mopar Performance Parts catalog go for it.
If you ever do run into a manufacturing defect though Mopar will never give the dealer credit for the parts, and since they don't have the name Rubicon Express or Superlift on the parts they also will not cover any manufacturing defects. Your dealership may not have attempted to warranty any performance parts yet, but as soon as they do they will make sure they never mention warranty and perrformance parts in the same sentence unless they say they are not warrantied.
When one of my local dealerships tried to sell me on these part because of the warranty I contacted the local Chrysler rep directly that will decide what a dealership gets credit for when it comes to warranty work. If you talk to Chrysler reps who have no vested interest like a comission involved in selling you a part you get a very different story.
If you ever do run into a manufacturing defect though Mopar will never give the dealer credit for the parts, and since they don't have the name Rubicon Express or Superlift on the parts they also will not cover any manufacturing defects. Your dealership may not have attempted to warranty any performance parts yet, but as soon as they do they will make sure they never mention warranty and perrformance parts in the same sentence unless they say they are not warrantied.
When one of my local dealerships tried to sell me on these part because of the warranty I contacted the local Chrysler rep directly that will decide what a dealership gets credit for when it comes to warranty work. If you talk to Chrysler reps who have no vested interest like a comission involved in selling you a part you get a very different story.
JK Freak
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Albany NY
http://www.mo-pod.com/pdf/09_Perform...log-120908.pdf
page 270
http://parts.mopar.com/pdf/warranty.pdf
ok guys let me see if I can break all this down for understanding purposes
The lift kit parts are covered by the manufacturing company. In this case it is Superlift or Rubicon Express. So if a part breaks under their warranty it is replaced by said company.
Yes, part numbers beginning with a "P" are sold "as is" as said in the warrany site and paperwork. If you buy it over the counter and take it home to put it on everything is on you.
Now enter the dealership and vehicle warranty - under the lifetime warranty all MOPAR parts installed by a Crysler tech are covered for workmanship for the lifetime of the vehicle while owned by the original purchaser.
If the dealer installs these lifts you have a few things working for you in tandem. The install is covered by the dealership under the lifetime warranty. So you have a lifetime warranty for parts through the lift manufaturer and a lifetime warranty on workmanship through the dealership who installed it.
The only part to be concerned with is where most people go wrong with warranties in the first place. The Chysler warranty for installed parts also covers parts affected by the installed part/accessory as long as installed by a Chysler tech. This coverage is for defects and quality workmanship - NOT someone rockcrawling the thing causing it to break. If the stuff is "broken" due to undue stress no warranty in the world covers it anyway. This is true of the warranty involving a completely stock, unmodified vehicle in the first place.
In the end, my dealership explained all the above to me and will stand behind the install of a MOPAR lift, if they install it, for warranty defect and workmanship. If i decide to jump it off a cliff (yes exaggerated reference), and it breaks, its obviously on me. And my trust in them comes from getting the same story separately from the new car service manager, the used car service manager, the parts advisor, both parts counter guys, three separate service techs, and the finance manager who sold me the lifetime warranty.
As for the above mention of dealerships marking up the price - if you actually deal with the parts department you will most of the time find you can get the parts at or near what you will find online - only the dealership isnt going to charge shipping, so in most cases you wind up ahead. The spacer lift is 250 bucks from the dealership. Quadretec lists it for 369. (This was why I started the thread by the way) And the other is a full suspension lift including coils, bilstein shocks, track bar, steering stabalizer, basically a high end lift well put together - not bad for 1500 bucks. Of course there will be labor install on top, but I would rather the guys who know what teh heck they are doing install it than me - its worth the labor price for me.
Yes anyone can argue interpretations of the warranties either way or claim the dealership may not honor what the say now later. Such is life in todays world. Even at minimum, I still stand a better chance of having something fixed than if I install a lift in my garage on my own.
Thanks guys for confirming what I thought about who made the lift, which really was the only point in the thread to begin with - apologies for the long post...
page 270
http://parts.mopar.com/pdf/warranty.pdf
ok guys let me see if I can break all this down for understanding purposes
The lift kit parts are covered by the manufacturing company. In this case it is Superlift or Rubicon Express. So if a part breaks under their warranty it is replaced by said company.
Yes, part numbers beginning with a "P" are sold "as is" as said in the warrany site and paperwork. If you buy it over the counter and take it home to put it on everything is on you.
Now enter the dealership and vehicle warranty - under the lifetime warranty all MOPAR parts installed by a Crysler tech are covered for workmanship for the lifetime of the vehicle while owned by the original purchaser.
If the dealer installs these lifts you have a few things working for you in tandem. The install is covered by the dealership under the lifetime warranty. So you have a lifetime warranty for parts through the lift manufaturer and a lifetime warranty on workmanship through the dealership who installed it.
The only part to be concerned with is where most people go wrong with warranties in the first place. The Chysler warranty for installed parts also covers parts affected by the installed part/accessory as long as installed by a Chysler tech. This coverage is for defects and quality workmanship - NOT someone rockcrawling the thing causing it to break. If the stuff is "broken" due to undue stress no warranty in the world covers it anyway. This is true of the warranty involving a completely stock, unmodified vehicle in the first place.
In the end, my dealership explained all the above to me and will stand behind the install of a MOPAR lift, if they install it, for warranty defect and workmanship. If i decide to jump it off a cliff (yes exaggerated reference), and it breaks, its obviously on me. And my trust in them comes from getting the same story separately from the new car service manager, the used car service manager, the parts advisor, both parts counter guys, three separate service techs, and the finance manager who sold me the lifetime warranty.
As for the above mention of dealerships marking up the price - if you actually deal with the parts department you will most of the time find you can get the parts at or near what you will find online - only the dealership isnt going to charge shipping, so in most cases you wind up ahead. The spacer lift is 250 bucks from the dealership. Quadretec lists it for 369. (This was why I started the thread by the way) And the other is a full suspension lift including coils, bilstein shocks, track bar, steering stabalizer, basically a high end lift well put together - not bad for 1500 bucks. Of course there will be labor install on top, but I would rather the guys who know what teh heck they are doing install it than me - its worth the labor price for me.
Yes anyone can argue interpretations of the warranties either way or claim the dealership may not honor what the say now later. Such is life in todays world. Even at minimum, I still stand a better chance of having something fixed than if I install a lift in my garage on my own.
Thanks guys for confirming what I thought about who made the lift, which really was the only point in the thread to begin with - apologies for the long post...
If you think its covered for life and the dealer will fix it no questions asked go for it...if you get any of these mopar lifts and have them dealer installed you are going to be paying a lot more for a lot less of a lift. Just remember your taking the stealerships word over everyone elses.
My dealership said a 2.5inch lift is ok then when my throwout bearing went bad (this is a well know problem) they said my lift caused it to happen. If I left it with them to fix they said they would take photos of the jeep for record to void the warranty lol... I had to remove the lift and go to a dif dealership to get the work done. I was once worried about warranty's too now I could care less, the reality is they will blame any thing else to get out of the work.
Last edited by jvalason; May 19, 2010 at 07:27 PM.
JK Newbie
Joined: May 2011
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From: Sylva,NC
If you think its covered for life and the dealer will fix it no questions asked go for it...if you get any of these mopar lifts and have them dealer installed you are going to be paying a lot more for a lot less of a lift. Just remember your taking the stealerships word over everyone elses.
My dealership said a 2.5inch lift is ok then when my throwout bearing went bad (this is a well know problem) they said my lift caused it to happen. If I left it with them to fix they said they would take photos of the jeep for record to void the warranty lol... I had to remove the lift and go to a dif dealership to get the work done. I was once worried about warranty's too now I could care less, the reality is they will blame any thing else to get out of the work.
My dealership said a 2.5inch lift is ok then when my throwout bearing went bad (this is a well know problem) they said my lift caused it to happen. If I left it with them to fix they said they would take photos of the jeep for record to void the warranty lol... I had to remove the lift and go to a dif dealership to get the work done. I was once worried about warranty's too now I could care less, the reality is they will blame any thing else to get out of the work.
anyone have issues with a voided dealership warranty because of a 2" spacer lift OR a 2.5" or less coil lift, dealer installed or otherwise.
i'm reconsidering a lift until my warranty runs out. hate to have to go through what jvalason went through.
JK Freak
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 616
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From: Mesquite, NV
bump to an old thread.
anyone have issues with a voided dealership warranty because of a 2" spacer lift OR a 2.5" or less coil lift, dealer installed or otherwise.
i'm reconsidering a lift until my warranty runs out. hate to have to go through what jvalason went through.
anyone have issues with a voided dealership warranty because of a 2" spacer lift OR a 2.5" or less coil lift, dealer installed or otherwise.
i'm reconsidering a lift until my warranty runs out. hate to have to go through what jvalason went through.
Facts are:
The salesman will flat out try to sell you the Mopar lift so it doesn't void your warranty, not a correct statement.
The due bill for the lift said right on it that Chrysler doesn't warrant it. That just means they don't warrant the components that didn't come stock from the factory, or any damage to factory components that the lift causes. It doesn't say it voids the Chrysler warranty on the stock components on the Jeep. That would be true for any lift.
If there is a warranty on the lift itself it would be from Mopar, not from Chrysler. I'd expect the dealer to correct any installation issues when they did the install.
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2010
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From: NJ
I just had a 2" rubicon express w monotubes installed at my dealer. They told me I'd still have my warranty since it was installed by their technician. They could be lying but theyve been great with me in the past. If something happens and i get screwed then i only have myself to blame.
Its the price you pay to have a customized jeep, IMO.
Its the price you pay to have a customized jeep, IMO.