New drag link and ball joints
03-25-2016, 09:39 AM
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Jeep has not been parked, but limited use over the last 2 years while I was building the new house. Since installing the ruff stuff tie rod I only have about 30 hard wheeling trips. Glad to see you warrantee your cartridges Currie did not. Do you warrantee the actual TRE? The design lends itself to bending, Currie charged me $120 for one replacement TRE. I would rather replace a 4' piece of DOM (around $30) rather then spend that much again on a TRE. I still have the bent tre and the cartridge, maybe you could get them warranted.
03-25-2016, 09:45 AM
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Jeep has not been parked, but limited use over the last 2 years while I was building the new house. Since installing the ruff stuff tie rod I only have about 30 hard wheeling trips. Glad to see you warrantee your cartridges Currie did not. Do you warrantee the actual TRE? The design lends itself to bending, Currie charged me $120 for one replacement TRE. I would rather replace a 4' piece of DOM (around $30) rather then spend that much again on a TRE. I still have the bent tre and the cartridge, maybe you could get them warranted.
If you do ever bend that stick of DOM, let us know and we'll get you a stick of 1.5" solid 7075 to replace it. You'd make for good field testing.
03-25-2016, 10:56 AM
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Jeep has not been parked, but limited use over the last 2 years while I was building the new house. Since installing the ruff stuff tie rod I only have about 30 hard wheeling trips. Glad to see you warrantee your cartridges Currie did not. Do you warrantee the actual TRE? The design lends itself to bending, Currie charged me $120 for one replacement TRE. I would rather replace a 4' piece of DOM (around $30) rather then spend that much again on a TRE. I still have the bent tre and the cartridge, maybe you could get them warranted.
Like Ken was saying earlier, you can limp of a trail after bending a tube but not to easy when you loose a knuckle connection. And, like what you said, tubes are less expensive to replace.
03-25-2016, 11:40 AM
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I agree with you Dirtman, when we fatigue tested the Currie tie rod assembly it failed just after 30,000 cycles compared to production that ran over 120,000 cycles. Plus, it was a oversized forging that interfered with the heat shield and only fit certain sized wheels. The seals were made from a felt type material that would only keep out small rocks from contaminating the bearing pocket.
Like Ken was saying earlier, you can limp of a trail after bending a tube but not to easy when you loose a knuckle connection. And, like what you said, tubes are less expensive to replace.
Like Ken was saying earlier, you can limp of a trail after bending a tube but not to easy when you loose a knuckle connection. And, like what you said, tubes are less expensive to replace.
No one will ever make it to 30k cycles. These aren't Honda Civics that are being babied for 1mm miles.
Yeah, can you limp off the trail with a bent tie rod? Sure. How exactly does that person get home? The Rare Parts ends are not failing. If you want to make comments that they are, then you need to back it up with real data.
In addition, your cycle tests mean nothing. You skipped the part about using an independent lab and ensuring that the test in no way biased your parts. You are new to this industry, but comments like that aren't well received. Search around about the time ARB did a test to show they had a stronger locker and broke a Yukon. It didn't go well for ARB, especially after Yukon came back and proved their test was BS.
Lastly, we stand behind our product and will warranty the ends and any other part of steering product. So, let's see you put it in writing. Stand behind your product and tell everyone that you will provide a lifetime warranty against worn joints and bent tie rods.
In fact, we'd be happy to use your ends for our 1 ton steering. Sell us your ends wholesale and we will use the aluminum that you dislike. You only gain business that way. Some people just want aluminum.
03-25-2016, 05:34 PM
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I agree with you Dirtman, when we fatigue tested the Currie tie rod assembly it failed just after 30,000 cycles compared to production that ran over 120,000 cycles. Plus, it was a oversized forging that interfered with the heat shield and only fit certain sized wheels. The seals were made from a felt type material that would only keep out small rocks from contaminating the bearing pocket. Like Ken was saying earlier, you can limp of a trail after bending a tube but not to easy when you loose a knuckle connection. And, like what you said, tubes are less expensive to replace.
03-26-2016, 04:08 AM
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Ken, I have 13 development engineers in Ohio and 3 in our R&D facility located in Plymouth, Michigan just looking for projects. We have been looking at Carbon Fiber for some time now. Very strong and light, corvette uses it and has been using a lot of it over many years. We are going to make a few and test them to see if it's worth doing.
I'll have videos of our 4 wheel steering JK 2 door on our steer smarts YouTube site next week. It's a lot of fun to drive.
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Where in Plymouth? I'd love to stop by
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03-26-2016, 04:15 AM
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You keep missing the point. This is an industry where people are running 150lbs of 40" wheels/tires at each corner and slamming them into rocks every weekend and multiplying leverage with hydro assist rams.
No one will ever make it to 30k cycles. These aren't Honda Civics that are being babied for 1mm miles.
Yeah, can you limp off the trail with a bent tie rod? Sure. How exactly does that person get home? The Rare Parts ends are not failing. If you want to make comments that they are, then you need to back it up with real data.
In addition, your cycle tests mean nothing. You skipped the part about using an independent lab and ensuring that the test in no way biased your parts. You are new to this industry, but comments like that aren't well received. Search around about the time ARB did a test to show they had a stronger locker and broke a Yukon. It didn't go well for ARB, especially after Yukon came back and proved their test was BS.
Lastly, we stand behind our product and will warranty the ends and any other part of steering product. So, let's see you put it in writing. Stand behind your product and tell everyone that you will provide a lifetime warranty against worn joints and bent tie rods.
In fact, we'd be happy to use your ends for our 1 ton steering. Sell us your ends wholesale and we will use the aluminum that you dislike. You only gain business that way. Some people just want aluminum.
03-26-2016, 06:17 AM
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Synergy drag link kit on mine. KOH race car shop I use for some of my work only sells Synergy. They might know a thing or two about required strength of components.