Just wanted to start a thread to let people know that I was able to get a Max Energy programmer directly from Hypertech to use on my 2010 Sport 2-door.

I have had it programmed since this afternoon but have only driven about 8 miles. Tomorrow I will be going on a 4 hour round trip and will have a good chance to see if I notice any positive change to the weak stock performance.

I have only 600 miles on the Jeep, it has a 3.25 Rusty's lift but stock tires and gears (yes, it looks silly). I see this as a good test though, it lets me program with no change to tire size or gearing first, then as I get my tires and gears I can continue to update this thread with anything interesting.

Oh.. it's an automatic, 3.73, sport with 17" wheels.

 

Ok, the good news is I have had no problems since programming with the Hypertech Max Energy. I've driven around 235 miles (mostly highway).

The bad news is that honestly I don't "Feel" any difference. I'm not saying it isn't there, I'm just saying that it's not enough to feel.

Here is what my Jeep does with or without the Hypertech programming:

1. Normal stop and go and in-town driving is ok... just "weak" overall. I have the 3.73 gears with stock tires that measure out about 31.5" and it's pretty much a gutless wonder.

2. Highway at 60-65 miles per hours is ok unless I hit a slight upgrade(maybe 1-2 percent). Whether or not I am using the cruise, if I try to maintain speed the transmission will almost certainly downshift. This is not a big deal though as even on downshift it only hits about 3000 RPM and climbs back to 60-65.

3. Highway at 70 miles per hour is actually much better. A bit strange considering the aerodynamic drag at 70 is nearly 36% higher than at 60. Because at 70 my RPMs are close to 1900, I'm making enough torque to not only overcome with 1-2 percent grades... but also the extra wind resistance. Crazy, but I almost never downshifted as long as I had the cruise set at 69-70.

So... with or without the Hypertech feels about the same, but I would have to assume that I am getting some horsepower and torque boost, just not enough to say Wow.

Here is the important part... I now know for sure that even a small increase in torque... like the 9-10 lb/ft difference between 1618 RPM at 60MPH and 1888 RPM at 70MPH will make a huge difference in how often the transmission kicks down.

 

There is a rather large contingent of people who have felt they had little or no gains with the Hypertech.

Also the rpms you are rolling at are definitely on the light side and no programmer is going to make up getting in the appropriate rpm range.

 

Nice of you to do this man. And wow 600 miles and youre already lifted with a hypertech programmer? :p

 

Well... the only other choice would be a Superchips... but it's not a choice considering I called them directly and got an absolutely worthless answer about thier plans for 2010 compatability.

"the flashpaq does not work with 2010s and we have no ETA"

So, I am trying the only option I have.

Also, if you check Hypertechs dyno chart, they show quite an improvement in the 1500 to 2500 rpm range. I'm just saying I don't feel it.

 

I have a totally different opinion and I've been running the Hypertech unit on a 2010 for about 2 weeks now.

My jeep is on 34" bighorns with 2" of lift. Before the Hypertech unit I had to turn off overdrive just to get the throttle to react appropriately around town or it bogged bad. On the highway OD was on and off so much at interstate speeds it was useless. And the 3.8 tune is terrible stock too IMO, but that's beside the point.

The throttle response between stock and Max Program alone is amazing but there's definitely more power/pull throughout the rpm range. Hypertech's chart shows 11hp and 24ftlbs torque for the Premium fuel program and I believe it.

I never touch OD any more highway or around town and I'm getting about what I was getting in mpg without the lift and tires.

Just to make sure it wasn't only in my head I had my wife drive it without giving her any info on what to expect. We had both commented that the 3.8 was gutless stock compared to our 4.0 in the TJ. After driving the programmed JK she said "You can get me a JK now too if it will drive like that."

So thanks hypertech for costing me another JK. Haha.

One happy customer.

 

As a rule of thumb, you really want to end up in an rpm range where you are getting 90% of the torque. Just consider the torque curve on the dyno chart as if it were showing the weight of a hammer, bigger hammer the more you move the object. From what others and I have experienced, around 2300 rpm is where you want to get to as a starting point for cruise speeds.

If you really had to have a programmer right now, you're right and the Hypertech is the only option. That's pretty much the same scenario that I bought mine under, and like you I didn't experience much if any gains. I have since bought a competitive product and I couldn't be happier.

 

There is a break in for a new jeep i would some more miles on your jeep before testing

 

About 25-30 hours of drive time should cover the break in of the motor and loosen things up.

 

would the programer get rid of the computer crippling i know all jk's 07-09 dont open up till after 3000 miles or so