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O/D off equivalent to Re-gear

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Old 06-05-2017, 03:43 PM
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This may be a stupid question but...

First off I know re gearing obviously does not give you anymore power

Would running 35's (33.5 measured) with 4.10's feel the same as let's say 4.10's and 31's at 2500 rpms. And then running 5.13's at the same rpm with the same tire size scenarios.

Would it hold 2500 rpms better with the 5.13's? That's the real question

Is there any sort of mechanical advantage allowing the motor to work easier at that rpm with the 5.13's opposed to the 4.10's?

Am I making sense or smoking paint chips? Haha

Let's just say somehow they are both in 4th gear
Old 06-05-2017, 05:46 PM
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And then running 5.13's at the same rpm with the same tire size
If the rpm is the same, the 'speed' will be different - One of your scenarios will be going faster/slower than the other, and have a lower/higher power need to maintain that speed.

On the other hand, if the speed is the same, the rpm will be different. And if the rpm is different, the HP and Torque (power) will also be different. And if ...




I was bored, so played around with the calculator linked earlier in the thread. Using 2500 rpm with 33.5" tires :
4.10 (OD/Off) = appx 61 mph
5.13 (OD/On) = appx 71 mph

Would it hold 2500 rpms better with the 5.13's?
So in this completely wonky comparison, I would expect the 4.10's to hold the rpm's better. Simply because your jeep will need less of the 'same available power' to hold 60mph than it would need to hold 70mph.

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Old 06-06-2017, 10:32 AM
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Without a doubt, going to lower gears is much better. But in the meantime, turning overdrive off is much better than the constant downshifting. I know that with 35's, and 3.73's our JKU will downshift if I even look at a hill! LOL
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Originally Posted by silverbullet88
For those that have re-geared and for those that have not.

3.8/Auto/35's or 37's/ 4.10s. Or with 5.13s etc.

What are your opinions on this? Realistically with overdrive off your turning 2900~ or so rpms. And with a re gear it's 2500~ or so. Both in the power band.

So no matter what the transmission is still going to downshift when going up a hill right?

Besides losing 4th gear all the time with o/d off what else am I missing? Do the 5.13's actually help stay in 4th on hills? Generate more torque per say?
If you're on 35's and 3.73 gears, OD off, 42RLE, you are turning same RPM as OD on with 5.13 gears. So if you're looking to regear just for highway performance, then don't, and simply use the OD button to do the same.

With that being said, you can always regear, if money is not an issue. Might lose some mileage though.
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^^^ That is correct. OD off is the equivalent final drive ratio of OD on with 5.13.
Old 07-03-2017, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTerminator
If you're on 35's and 3.73 gears, OD off, 42RLE, you are turning same RPM as OD on with 5.13 gears. So if you're looking to regear just for highway performance, then don't, and simply use the OD button to do the same. With that being said, you can always regear, if money is not an issue. Might lose some mileage though.
Yep and that's what sucks! Even with OD off I can't hold 3rd on long hills. Unless I let my speed drop.

Adding 5.13's I would still not keep my speed and probably make it worse. (On the highway up hills)

That's why I'm happy with OD off. Holds most hills and everywhere else fine. At 65 the rpm is around 2700ish. Not bad



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