OMG I Need Some Beadlocks
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Interco Birddog??
Wondering why no one has mentioned Interco Birddog wheels. I don't have them but they got a lot of press when they came out. There are two 17x9 rims with 5x5 lugs listed - one with 4.5" backspace and the other with 3.5" backspace.
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So many threads plagued with bad info...
First of all, there is not such thing as DOT "approved", "certified", whatever. There is DOT "compliment", which essentially means nothing. There is no known state or federal law regarding beadlock wheels. If there is, it would be a law against multi-piece wheels, in which case they all fail.
The DOT crap is essentially testing impact to the wheel, etc. Any legit beadlock today would make any standard wheel look like a joke. Most manufacturers don't claim compliance because it costs $$$. In addition, it creates a liability. No logic to doing it when you sell them regardless. The reality is that beadlocks are all dangerous in the hands of consumers who don't need and shouldn't own them. Used bolts, improper torque, not checking torque, etc, all a recipe for incident.
Anyway, carry on. And btw, weight doesn't matter. That's the worst criteria you can come up with. Good luck.
First of all, there is not such thing as DOT "approved", "certified", whatever. There is DOT "compliment", which essentially means nothing. There is no known state or federal law regarding beadlock wheels. If there is, it would be a law against multi-piece wheels, in which case they all fail.
The DOT crap is essentially testing impact to the wheel, etc. Any legit beadlock today would make any standard wheel look like a joke. Most manufacturers don't claim compliance because it costs $$$. In addition, it creates a liability. No logic to doing it when you sell them regardless. The reality is that beadlocks are all dangerous in the hands of consumers who don't need and shouldn't own them. Used bolts, improper torque, not checking torque, etc, all a recipe for incident.
Anyway, carry on. And btw, weight doesn't matter. That's the worst criteria you can come up with. Good luck.
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So many threads plagued with bad info...
First of all, there is not such thing as DOT "approved", "certified", whatever. There is DOT "compliment", which essentially means nothing. There is no known state or federal law regarding beadlock wheels. If there is, it would be a law against multi-piece wheels, in which case they all fail.
The DOT crap is ess. entially testing impact to the wheel, etc. Any legit beadlock today would make any standard wheel look like a joke. Most manufacturers don't claim compliance because it costs $$$. In addition, it creates a liability. No logic to doing it when you sell them regardless. The reality is that beadlocks are all dangerous in the hands of consumers who don't need and shouldn't own them. Used bolts, improper torque, not checking torque, etc, all a recipe for incident.
Anyway, carry on. And btw, weight doesn't matter. That's the worst criteria you can come up with. Good luck.
First of all, there is not such thing as DOT "approved", "certified", whatever. There is DOT "compliment", which essentially means nothing. There is no known state or federal law regarding beadlock wheels. If there is, it would be a law against multi-piece wheels, in which case they all fail.
The DOT crap is ess. entially testing impact to the wheel, etc. Any legit beadlock today would make any standard wheel look like a joke. Most manufacturers don't claim compliance because it costs $$$. In addition, it creates a liability. No logic to doing it when you sell them regardless. The reality is that beadlocks are all dangerous in the hands of consumers who don't need and shouldn't own them. Used bolts, improper torque, not checking torque, etc, all a recipe for incident.
Anyway, carry on. And btw, weight doesn't matter. That's the worst criteria you can come up with. Good luck.
Well all the DOT malarkey is just that, which is why its not a factor to me. I actually don't intend to use them on road anyway, but plan to slap them on when I'm doing some serious wheeling.
As for the comment in your last sentence, I have to completely disagree. At least here in New Mexico the laws of physics still apply. But I have to thank you for the comment as it prompted me to make another post to the forums where I was able to nerd out a bit, I would encourage you to read it.
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/modi...2/#post4149902
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So many threads plagued with bad info... First of all, there is not such thing as DOT "approved", "certified", whatever. There is DOT "compliment", which essentially means nothing. There is no known state or federal law regarding beadlock wheels. If there is, it would be a law against multi-piece wheels, in which case they all fail. The DOT crap is essentially testing impact to the wheel, etc. Any legit beadlock today would make any standard wheel look like a joke. Most manufacturers don't claim compliance because it costs $$$. In addition, it creates a liability. No logic to doing it when you sell them regardless. The reality is that beadlocks are all dangerous in the hands of consumers who don't need and shouldn't own them. Used bolts, improper torque, not checking torque, etc, all a recipe for incident. Anyway, carry on. And btw, weight doesn't matter. That's the worst criteria you can come up with. Good luck.
Just my 2cents... But if the OP is only using them off-road then it's irrelevant
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what makes you think you need beadlocks?
have you ever had a tire unseat itself while off roading?
beadlocks don't balance very well. I've had many... I did manage to still roll the inner bead off with them.
I think there is a lot of "you have to run beadlocks" and maybe 17" wheels don't have that great of a safety bead. Good wheel selection should get you around that.
Now I just run wheels and reseat the tire if the bead pops. it's a lot less hassle than the beadlocks were, and with my current wheels I run 9 PSI and have never popped a bead.
now, if this is a trailered rig.. I'd go beadlocks.
have you ever had a tire unseat itself while off roading?
beadlocks don't balance very well. I've had many... I did manage to still roll the inner bead off with them.
I think there is a lot of "you have to run beadlocks" and maybe 17" wheels don't have that great of a safety bead. Good wheel selection should get you around that.
Now I just run wheels and reseat the tire if the bead pops. it's a lot less hassle than the beadlocks were, and with my current wheels I run 9 PSI and have never popped a bead.
now, if this is a trailered rig.. I'd go beadlocks.
Not a trailered rig, but the wheels (beadlocks) will be. they sit nicely on a rack set over the tongue of my trailer which is a little guy 6' rough rider off road teardrop.
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I agree with your statements, but would would like to point out the reason "DOT compliant" matters to me. Besides the liability of it if something was to happen on a highway and the lawsuit that would follow, about 2-3 years ago my friend was ticketed in FL for beadlocks. Granted he only had to appear and show they were removed/replaced and pay court cost, still got the ticket. That being said 999 out of 1000 cops don't know what beadlocks even are. And even if they do, the odds of them being able to distinguish the real ones from all the look-a-like beadlock wheels now days are next to nothing. However I carry a ridiculous amount of liability insurance and don't want to be in a situation I might get sued and not be cover me.
Just my 2cents... But if the OP is only using them off-road then it's irrelevant
Just my 2cents... But if the OP is only using them off-road then it's irrelevant
Again, it is rumored that a few states don't allow multi-piece wheels.
In addition, DOT compliant DOES NOT make a wheel street legal. And why is that? Copied and pasted from AEVs website " Currently, DOT or SAE has no specific regulation or test requirements for beadlock wheels." And btw, the AEV wheels are known for cracking and exploding. Happened to two people in my area. I'll take my chances with wheels that survive KOH.
Now, back to the topic of liability. Tell me about the modifications to your Jeep? Is your track bar the stock cast one that has been tested for safety? We've all the the pictures of the solid chrome-moly track bars and drag links that have mysteriously broken in half on the highway.
What about larger tires? If you rear end someone and there is an injury, don't you think you can be found negligent for not upgrading your brakes?
Point is, there is liability with nearly every mod on a Jeep. For some reason beadlocks are put into a separate light that makes zero sense. AEV also comments about proper care. Other than the garbage AEV wheels, the only failure with a beadlock I've seen is from improper care. To be clear, AEV says DOT compliant as it relates to standard wheel test, not beadlocks. And they absolutely do not say they are street legal.
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A ticket for what? There are no known laws that exist in any state regarding beadlock wheels. Here you go for FL Florida Lift Laws | Vehicle Modification Rules. I have yet to see someone post a legit ticket for beadlocks and one that they had to pay because a specific ordinance or infraction was cited. Again, it is rumored that a few states don't allow multi-piece wheels. In addition, DOT compliant DOES NOT make a wheel street legal. And why is that? Copied and pasted from AEVs website " Currently, DOT or SAE has no specific regulation or test requirements for beadlock wheels." And btw, the AEV wheels are known for cracking and exploding. Happened to two people in my area. I'll take my chances with wheels that survive KOH. Now, back to the topic of liability. Tell me about the modifications to your Jeep? Is your track bar the stock cast one that has been tested for safety? We've all the the pictures of the solid chrome-moly track bars and drag links that have mysteriously broken in half on the highway. What about larger tires? If you rear end someone and there is an injury, don't you think you can be found negligent for not upgrading your brakes? Point is, there is liability with nearly every mod on a Jeep. For some reason beadlocks are put into a separate light that makes zero sense. AEV also comments about proper care. Other than the garbage AEV wheels, the only failure with a beadlock I've seen is from improper care. To be clear, AEV says DOT compliant as it relates to standard wheel test, not beadlocks. And they absolutely do not say they are street legal.
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I do report all major mods to my insurance company and I'm repeatedly told that as long as it is "Street Legal" I'm still covered.
I'm going to ask about Beadlocks and see what they say. I am very interested. Thanks for posting that site. I've heard of it before but never really read it.
http://www.liftlaws.com/are_beadlocks_street_legal.htm
OP- sorry for the high jack. Get some slabs and call it a day.
I'm going to ask about Beadlocks and see what they say. I am very interested. Thanks for posting that site. I've heard of it before but never really read it.
http://www.liftlaws.com/are_beadlocks_street_legal.htm
OP- sorry for the high jack. Get some slabs and call it a day.