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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by reddragon
The ride quality and on road handling performance of my 09 Unlimited diesel is starting to make me sea sick. What options are there to improve the on road handling of the wrangler? At the moment it feels very under dampened and rolly.

I cant lift it as it just fits in my buildings car park as it is.
It is mostly drivin on road with the mothly trail run and beach driving.

My plan is:
285-70-17 BFG ATs
Spidertrax spacers
Edelbrock shocks (had a set on a ram 1500 and they transformed it)

I am also going to ask my dealer about the castor kit that is used on death wobble jeeps here.
Do track bars and other bits like that do anything on a stock height jeep?
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by style_front
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Sense. Your post makes none.

Coilovers do not necessarily mean an increase in overall height.

Yes, when most people install coilovers they do it as part of a large lift...but since many coilover installs are essentially custom work (especially the towers), there is no rule saying what the height needs to be.

That is an awfully expensive way to improve a Jeep's ride though.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by w squared
Sense. Your post makes none.

Coilovers do not necessarily mean an increase in overall height.

Yes, when most people install coilovers they do it as part of a large lift...but since many coilover installs are essentially custom work (especially the towers), there is no rule saying what the height needs to be.

That is an awfully expensive way to improve a Jeep's ride though.
Correct. It dosent mean a height increase. Just spoke to king and their kit using standard springs sounds good and gives another 25% travel without lifting. One problem, have to start saving big time for it!
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by w squared
Sense. Your post makes none.

Coilovers do not necessarily mean an increase in overall height.
lol, could you post a link to these coilovers, for a JK, that when installed do not provide lift to your jeep?

Rock Krawler, evo, fabtech and outlaw offroad coilovers all seem to provide at minimum 3.5 inches (3.5 inches being rock krawlers).


In theory you are correct, in practice your logic seems to fall on it's face.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by reddragon
Correct. It dosent mean a height increase. Just spoke to king and their kit using standard springs sounds good and gives another 25% travel without lifting. One problem, have to start saving big time for it!
25% in the front, 15% in the rear. They are not the only remote reservoir in the game offering that kind of travel but they are arguably the best.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by style_front
lol, could you post a link to these coilovers, for a JK, that when installed do not provide lift to your jeep?

Rock Krawler, evo, fabtech and outlaw offroad coilovers all seem to provide at minimum 3.5 inches (3.5 inches being rock krawlers).


In theory you are correct, in practice your logic seems to fall on it's face.
Did you actually read my post?

We're talking about custom work here. Find a fab shop that understand suspension, get some relatively short coilovers, have them build appropriate mounts, trim, limit strap, and bumpstop accordingly and call it good!

Just because the kits offered for common consumption don't offer coilover fitment without a 3 inch lift doesn't mean that you can't get coilover fitment without a three inch lift. There is more to Jeeps than things you order from a catalog to bolt on.

You won't find anyone out there on the net offering the mix of features and the design that I have on my front bumper (in my avatar)...but that didn't stop me from having it built at a local fab shop. I got the design I wanted, the materials I wanted, and the capabilities I wanted...even though none of that was available from anyone advertising a product on the net.

Yes...when you get full custom work, you're going to be a guinea pig. But sometimes that's not such a bad thing - it's working out pretty well for my bumper
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by w squared
Did you actually read my post?
Yep, your looking into king shocks and australian coilovers. Hope it works out for you. Forgive me for not knowing that you were talking about a custom coilover because that wasn't clarified until post 26
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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The coilovers don't need to be custom, just the mounts.

You can buy off-the-shelf King coilover shocks in travel lengths anywhere from 8 to 18 inches.

Once you have a coilover that has an appropriate length and travel for your application, you have an appropriately talented fabricator build you some mounts. Then you can adjust the coilover to give you the exact ride height that you're looking for.



See that nut on the right hand side? The one that looks sort of like a jam nut? You can use that to adjust the ride height.

Then you're off to the races.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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I lust after those King coil overs as much as the next offroader, but isn't that a little radical for someone just trying to tighten up their road manners a bit?

What about using the firmer stock springs, shocks and maybe even sway bars if they are larger diameter from a Rubicon. There is a number of them for sale on this forum at times. If it raises your Jeep beyond your limit, drop down in tire size to a small 32" (~31.5). The tire size you picked is ~33" tall.

If roll is your main concern then just use a slightly diameter set of sway bars. Just make they both increase proportionally or it can significantly change the handling balance (understeer/oversteer) of your JK.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by spinlock
I lust after those King coil overs as much as the next offroader, but isn't that a little radical for someone just trying to tighten up their road manners a bit?
Moderation is for monks. Coilovers or bust!

It's way beyond what I could consider doing...but it's not my Jeep, either. From the posts he's made, I think that the OP understands what he's talking about doing (from a price point of view)
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