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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 06:27 AM
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I was wondering if mods such as suspension lifts, larger tires with spacers, etc., void the warranty.

Also, I read about people having quick disconnects for their swaybar. I have an 07 Rubicon that has electric disconnects. When lift kits are installed, does that eliminate the electric disconnects, therefore requiring the quick disconnects?

First time Wrangler owner here so I',m not familiar with these things.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bodo
I was wondering if mods such as suspension lifts, larger tires with spacers, etc., void the warranty.
Short answer, yes. But, it can also depend on the dealership. Say there is something wrong with your engine and you have it lifted. Sometimes, they may fix the engine because they aren't directly related. I wouldn't plan on that though. I'd be willing to bet most dealership wouldn't touch a modified Jeep.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JKcarp
Short answer, yes. But, it can also depend on the dealership. Say there is something wrong with your engine and you have it lifted. Sometimes, they may fix the engine because they aren't directly related. I wouldn't plan on that though. I'd be willing to bet most dealership wouldn't touch a modified Jeep.
short answer : NO

you are incorrect and your dealer is trying to screw you.

as an owner of any new vehicle it would be in your best interest to learn the Magnuson-Moss Act. In cliff notes: you can modify anything and it only voids the warranty on the product replaced and what is directly attributed to that product and not jack shit else.

I put on a lift and tires: engine or tranny explodes, warranty is still good as the lift/tires did not cause shit.
U-joint blows up, ok that is my fault with the big tires


get the idea?
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 07:11 AM
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OK, got one yes and one no. (Or maybe)

What about the disconnects?
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 07:14 AM
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After market disconnects are only for Jeeps without the electronic disconnect. You may need extensions, but not new quick disconnects.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JKcarp
Short answer, yes. But, it can also depend on the dealership. Say there is something wrong with your engine and you have it lifted. Sometimes, they may fix the engine because they aren't directly related. I wouldn't plan on that though. I'd be willing to bet most dealership wouldn't touch a modified Jeep.
As usmcdoc14 stated, answer is NOT a quick no...you have to csonsider all the dealers who install lifts before they even sell some of the the JKs off their lots; you think they are not going to offer warrantys on those? That would be ridiculous; I think the instances of dealers NOT covering warranty issues, other than the type like the aforementioned trackbar bracket on another thread, would be few and far between. Though I'm sure some will chime in with horror stories, but they are not typical...

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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14
short answer : NO

you are incorrect and your dealer is trying to screw you.

as an owner of any new vehicle it would be in your best interest to learn the Magnuson-Moss Act. In cliff notes: you can modify anything and it only voids the warranty on the product replaced and what is directly attributed to that product and not jack shit else.

I put on a lift and tires: engine or tranny explodes, warranty is still good as the lift/tires did not cause shit.
U-joint blows up, ok that is my fault with the big tires


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You and I mean YOU have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, the modification did not cause the problem.

I have been through this process with DCX, they're no fun, if you like paying $800 for a DCX inspector, plus legal fees, knock yourself out.....

Just because their is a law in place, doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win, yes you may in about 2 years.... but really if you're that worried steps to follow.

1. Never post pictures of your rig on the internet *DCX monitors sites*
2. Never mention your modifications
3. Never tell DCX you know VC, or you may get a phone call

srsly

I'm not the godfather of the SRT-4 for nothing!

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54234
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Vanilla_Coke
You and I mean YOU have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, the modification did not cause the problem.

I have been through this process with DCX, they're no fun, if you like paying $800 for a DCX inspector, plus legal fees, knock yourself out.....

Just because their is a law in place, doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win, yes you may in about 2 years.... but really if you're that worried steps to follow.

1. Never post pictures of your rig on the internet *DCX monitors sites*
2. Never mention your modifications
3. Never tell DCX you know VC, or you may get a phone call

srsly

I'm not the godfather of the SRT-4 for nothing!

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54234
Well, most of the reason they refused repairs on the SRT-4s was not due to the mods, but because they felt that the vehicles were not being driven as intended (ie, street racing). Plus, so many people were going stage 4 and 5, and blowing out other parts that were directly related. If you had factory stage 3, and put rims on it, and your tranny broke, and they refused it, you had better believe I would have been in court. Plus, if you file another civil claim, you can make them pay for the court costs when they lose.
However, it all comes down to how they interpret the damage happened. If you have 37s and are running 4Hi on the street during a sprinkle, then no, they won't repair your axle shafts. If you lift it and the main seal blows out on the back, then yes, they will repair it.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Vanilla_Coke
I have been through this process with DCX, they're no fun, if you like paying $800 for a DCX inspector, plus legal fees, knock yourself out.....

funny, i just Lemoned a vehicle with them and THEY were easy to work with, but as mentioned I had DEALERS who were fawking morons and THEY were the ones who where a pain in the ass.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr.McNinja
Well, most of the reason they refused repairs on the SRT-4s was not due to the mods, but because they felt that the vehicles were not being driven as intended (ie, street racing). Plus, so many people were going stage 4 and 5, and blowing out other parts that were directly related. If you had factory stage 3, and put rims on it, and your tranny broke, and they refused it, you had better believe I would have been in court. Plus, if you file another civil claim, you can make them pay for the court costs when they lose.
However, it all comes down to how they interpret the damage happened. If you have 37s and are running 4Hi on the street during a sprinkle, then no, they won't repair your axle shafts. If you lift it and the main seal blows out on the back, then yes, they will repair it.


See the part where I said you may win, which = fee's being paid out to you, however its not like you go to court, and the next day you have a check cut to you....

YOU have to have money on hand, in order to get somewhere...

It took me over 6 months, and fyi, it wasn't the case of street racing or the way I was utilizing the vehicle it was modded with aftermarket parts; later it was lemoned and blew a rod through the hood after it was deemed a "LEMON"
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