Rear Dana 44 Locker
07-24-2014, 09:37 AM
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Rear Dana 44 Locker
I am just wanting to see what other people have used as far as non Rubicon rear dana 44 lockers. I am wanting to put one in but I dont want to spend a ton.
07-24-2014, 09:50 AM
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Do you need a locker, or would a truetrac be enough? If you want a locker, are you looking at an automatic or a selectable? If you want a selectable, which activation method? How much is a 'ton'?
My suggestions for their respective categories would be:
Truetrac / Detroit / ARB (air) or Eaton E-locker (electric)
My suggestions for their respective categories would be:
Truetrac / Detroit / ARB (air) or Eaton E-locker (electric)
07-24-2014, 10:00 AM
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Do you need a locker, or would a truetrac be enough? If you want a locker, are you looking at an automatic or a selectable? If you want a selectable, which activation method? How much is a 'ton'?
My suggestions for their respective categories would be:
Truetrac / Detroit / ARB (air) or Eaton E-locker (electric)
My suggestions for their respective categories would be:
Truetrac / Detroit / ARB (air) or Eaton E-locker (electric)
07-24-2014, 10:09 AM
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I personally prefer the e-locker. The e-locker wasn't popular because it used a 2 pin design vs a 4 pin in some air lockers. Eaton has recently released a more robust 4 pin design (although, I think the rear non-Rubi was already 4 pin, it was the front d30 that wasn't... I forget).
The potential downside to air besides price is that the air lines have been known to break or pinch, and then no locker. The other is if the compressor fails.
Personally, I use e-lockers and then have CO2 for an air source. You could do that for less than the cost of an air locker setup and then be able to refill your tires waaaaaaay faster. I'm isually done airing up when other people are just moving to the second tire. I can also run air tools and it's portable (which is really nice when someone else has an issue on the trail - I can carry it over).
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07-24-2014, 10:11 AM
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Air locker requires on board air compressor run to the locker in order to engage it. Some people elect to stay away from that due to the possibility of air leaks. Most of the time that falls back on improper installation though.
On board air is also beneficial for other things like airing up tires or running power tools on the trail.
On board air is also beneficial for other things like airing up tires or running power tools on the trail.
07-24-2014, 10:16 AM
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This one has been around for a few years and has some good comparison info. (the eaton e-locker has been upgraded to a stronger 4-pin design since this was written)
Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource » Dynatrac Presents - Lockers 101
ARB has been the standard that all other selectable lockers are compared against for years and years. And years. They are proven. I guess the con's would be that air lockers have extra parts that can fail. (air lines and seals?) But if you are going to run onboard air, they kinda make sense.
The d44 e-locker was a 2-pin design until recently, so the arb was obviously the stronger choice. Now, the electric activation with a 4-pin design is a much more attractive option. But, it doesn't have decades of use to prove that it works.
The Yukon air locker is apparently the old arb design, which worked for years and years. It is cheaper, and has a great warranty, which can include collateral damage and even a lifetime warranty for an added charge.
Ox? A lot of people like them. A lot of people don't. Option of air, electric or cable actuation is a nice bonus.
Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource » Dynatrac Presents - Lockers 101
ARB has been the standard that all other selectable lockers are compared against for years and years. And years. They are proven. I guess the con's would be that air lockers have extra parts that can fail. (air lines and seals?) But if you are going to run onboard air, they kinda make sense.
The d44 e-locker was a 2-pin design until recently, so the arb was obviously the stronger choice. Now, the electric activation with a 4-pin design is a much more attractive option. But, it doesn't have decades of use to prove that it works.
The Yukon air locker is apparently the old arb design, which worked for years and years. It is cheaper, and has a great warranty, which can include collateral damage and even a lifetime warranty for an added charge.
Ox? A lot of people like them. A lot of people don't. Option of air, electric or cable actuation is a nice bonus.
07-24-2014, 10:20 AM
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This one has been around for a few years and has some good comparison info. (the eaton e-locker has been upgraded to a stronger 4-pin design since this was written)
Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource » Dynatrac Presents - Lockers 101
ARB has been the standard that all other selectable lockers are compared against for years and years. And years. They are proven. I guess the con's would be that air lockers have extra parts that can fail. (air lines and seals?) But if you are going to run onboard air, they kinda make sense.
The d44 e-locker was a 2-pin design until recently, so the arb was obviously the stronger choice. Now, the electric activation with a 4-pin design is a much more attractive option. But, it doesn't have decades of use to prove that it works.
The Yukon air locker is apparently the old arb design, which worked for years and years. It is cheaper, and has a great warranty, which can include collateral damage and even a lifetime warranty for an added charge.
Ox? A lot of people like them. A lot of people don't. Option of air, electric or cable actuation is a nice bonus.
Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource » Dynatrac Presents - Lockers 101
ARB has been the standard that all other selectable lockers are compared against for years and years. And years. They are proven. I guess the con's would be that air lockers have extra parts that can fail. (air lines and seals?) But if you are going to run onboard air, they kinda make sense.
The d44 e-locker was a 2-pin design until recently, so the arb was obviously the stronger choice. Now, the electric activation with a 4-pin design is a much more attractive option. But, it doesn't have decades of use to prove that it works.
The Yukon air locker is apparently the old arb design, which worked for years and years. It is cheaper, and has a great warranty, which can include collateral damage and even a lifetime warranty for an added charge.
Ox? A lot of people like them. A lot of people don't. Option of air, electric or cable actuation is a nice bonus.
Ive heard the new zips are essentially the same strength and design as the new ARB. Only thing ive seen is my buddies zip switch was faulty so wouldnt always work. He put in a ARB switch and its work fine. May have been a bad switch from the factory. Im sure you could hook it up to any style though.
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E-locker only requires a 12v electrical connection, which you have already. An air locker requires you also have an air compressor (air source). An e-locker will be less expensive if you don't already have an air source.
I personally prefer the e-locker. The e-locker wasn't popular because it used a 2 pin design vs a 4 pin in some air lockers. Eaton has recently released a more robust 4 pin design (although, I think the rear non-Rubi was already 4 pin, it was the front d30 that wasn't... I forget).
The potential downside to air besides price is that the air lines have been known to break or pinch, and then no locker. The other is if the compressor fails.
Personally, I use e-lockers and then have CO2 for an air source. You could do that for less than the cost of an air locker setup and then be able to refill your tires waaaaaaay faster. I'm isually done airing up when other people are just moving to the second tire. I can also run air tools and it's portable (which is really nice when someone else has an issue on the trail - I can carry it over).
I personally prefer the e-locker. The e-locker wasn't popular because it used a 2 pin design vs a 4 pin in some air lockers. Eaton has recently released a more robust 4 pin design (although, I think the rear non-Rubi was already 4 pin, it was the front d30 that wasn't... I forget).
The potential downside to air besides price is that the air lines have been known to break or pinch, and then no locker. The other is if the compressor fails.
Personally, I use e-lockers and then have CO2 for an air source. You could do that for less than the cost of an air locker setup and then be able to refill your tires waaaaaaay faster. I'm isually done airing up when other people are just moving to the second tire. I can also run air tools and it's portable (which is really nice when someone else has an issue on the trail - I can carry it over).
This one has been around for a few years and has some good comparison info. (the eaton e-locker has been upgraded to a stronger 4-pin design since this was written)
Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource » Dynatrac Presents - Lockers 101
ARB has been the standard that all other selectable lockers are compared against for years and years. And years. They are proven. I guess the con's would be that air lockers have extra parts that can fail. (air lines and seals?) But if you are going to run onboard air, they kinda make sense.
The d44 e-locker was a 2-pin design until recently, so the arb was obviously the stronger choice. Now, the electric activation with a 4-pin design is a much more attractive option. But, it doesn't have decades of use to prove that it works.
The Yukon air locker is apparently the old arb design, which worked for years and years. It is cheaper, and has a great warranty, which can include collateral damage and even a lifetime warranty for an added charge.
Ox? A lot of people like them. A lot of people don't. Option of air, electric or cable actuation is a nice bonus.
Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource » Dynatrac Presents - Lockers 101
ARB has been the standard that all other selectable lockers are compared against for years and years. And years. They are proven. I guess the con's would be that air lockers have extra parts that can fail. (air lines and seals?) But if you are going to run onboard air, they kinda make sense.
The d44 e-locker was a 2-pin design until recently, so the arb was obviously the stronger choice. Now, the electric activation with a 4-pin design is a much more attractive option. But, it doesn't have decades of use to prove that it works.
The Yukon air locker is apparently the old arb design, which worked for years and years. It is cheaper, and has a great warranty, which can include collateral damage and even a lifetime warranty for an added charge.
Ox? A lot of people like them. A lot of people don't. Option of air, electric or cable actuation is a nice bonus.
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I went with a eaton e-locker. I did not want to have to go with the whole air setup. Mine is a daily driver. I love my locker. I also replaced the diff cover. I went with the riddler got it for $89 small price to protect the locker plus the diff cover has no lip and recess bolt heads. I caught the lip on my stock cover and almost lost all my fluid . Now for price I was at $1500 out the door