Rubi or not?
JK Enthusiast
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From: edmond, ok
I hate to be one of the only voices of non-rubi, but if the guy is going to make the changes he's stating, its a waste. And I speak from experience.
He'll waste his money on the e-locker, when he's going to put ARB lockers in.
He'll waste his money on the e-disco because there are better products out there that are less money. And products that aren't going to fail (how many people out there have had their e-disco fail?) such as the Currie Anti-rocks, or, just a knob type sway bar disconnect (Teraflex ST for example) that won't fail.
Admittedly, if he wants the 4.1 transfer case or the D44 up front, that's all replaceable as well for the cost difference between an X and a Rubi.
Sorry, but if he's changing all this stuff out, he doesn't need a Rubi. As a matter of fact, I think his X will be better than a Rubi without the added expense when he is done.
Which is exactly what I think of my X... I've made it better than a Rubi. Without spending the extra dough..
He'll waste his money on the e-locker, when he's going to put ARB lockers in.
He'll waste his money on the e-disco because there are better products out there that are less money. And products that aren't going to fail (how many people out there have had their e-disco fail?) such as the Currie Anti-rocks, or, just a knob type sway bar disconnect (Teraflex ST for example) that won't fail.
Admittedly, if he wants the 4.1 transfer case or the D44 up front, that's all replaceable as well for the cost difference between an X and a Rubi.
Sorry, but if he's changing all this stuff out, he doesn't need a Rubi. As a matter of fact, I think his X will be better than a Rubi without the added expense when he is done.
Which is exactly what I think of my X... I've made it better than a Rubi. Without spending the extra dough..
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Jun 2009
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From: Graham, WA
Dana 44's front and rear, e-lockers front and rear, 4:1 transfer case, electric sway-bar disconnect, 4.10 gear ratio, standard power door locks, standard power windows, standard remote keyless entry, standard security alarm, standard 7 speaker sound system w/sub, upgraded cloth seats, 17x7.5 Rubicon wheels, 32" BFG's, and of course that great Rubicon decal on the hood.
I'm a little biased... but I went with the Rubicon!!! Besides... I don't think I could ever convince my wife to let me upgrade to a Dana 44 front axle or the 4:1 trany if I had gone with an X.
And for that reason... those two items alone were worth getting a Rubi over an X!
I'm a little biased... but I went with the Rubicon!!! Besides... I don't think I could ever convince my wife to let me upgrade to a Dana 44 front axle or the 4:1 trany if I had gone with an X.
And for that reason... those two items alone were worth getting a Rubi over an X!
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2007
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From: Phoenix, AZ
Dana 44's front and rear, e-lockers front and rear, 4:1 transfer case, electric sway-bar disconnect, 4.10 gear ratio, standard power door locks, standard power windows, standard remote keyless entry, standard security alarm, standard 7 speaker sound system w/sub, upgraded cloth seats, 17x7.5 Rubicon wheels, 32" BFG's, and of course that great Rubicon decal on the hood.
I'm a little biased... but I went with the Rubicon!!! Besides... I don't think I could ever convince my wife to let me upgrade to a Dana 44 front axle or the 4:1 trany if I had gone with an X. And for that reason... those two items alone were worth getting a Rubi over an X!
I'm a little biased... but I went with the Rubicon!!! Besides... I don't think I could ever convince my wife to let me upgrade to a Dana 44 front axle or the 4:1 trany if I had gone with an X.
And for that reason... those two items alone were worth getting a Rubi over an X!
JK Super Freak
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: Prosper, TX
I've beat this up quite a few times myself and you just can't get around the cost of the 4x transfer case. If that's not something that's important for you, then go with the X.
The other thing that isn't mentioned is that despite potentially yanking some stuff you paid for on a Rubicon, they still have value on the used market. You can't get money for the Steelies for an X, the tires, nor the Springs. Not a whole lot of cash, but it definitely helps offset the cost difference.
The other thing that isn't mentioned is that despite potentially yanking some stuff you paid for on a Rubicon, they still have value on the used market. You can't get money for the Steelies for an X, the tires, nor the Springs. Not a whole lot of cash, but it definitely helps offset the cost difference.
As for the selling of take off parts, it makes absolutely no sense to spend an extra 5K on the rubi to sell take off parts to make an extra $500!
BTW, don't fergit that even with a rubi 44 front end you will still have to sleeve the tubes, gussets,.... they too are prone to bending.
Last edited by CJ7nvrstk; Oct 6, 2009 at 04:43 AM.
JK Enthusiast
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From: Leavenworth, WA
Agreed, I'm a finance guy by profession - I had my spreadsheet all setup to track the upgrades; now I don't want to see it.
I am keeping receipts and photos for insurance reasons, but I have no idea on the total cumulative costs.
Also, I switched my credit card to one with free gas card rewards so I stopped tracking my fuel costs too.
I am keeping receipts and photos for insurance reasons, but I have no idea on the total cumulative costs.
Also, I switched my credit card to one with free gas card rewards so I stopped tracking my fuel costs too.
I went Rubi because I did not want to do all the work to upgrade. Buy an X if you can do the labor yourself, you may save some money.
JK Freak
Joined: May 2009
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From: Burbank, CA
Lots of things to consider in this decision, and lots of good points here.
I chose Rubi, and I'm happy with that decision for me. I wanted something very offroad-capable right out of the box (I started wheeling mine three weeks old) and all covered under the factory warranty. I heard stories of people having problems with mods they put in, and I didn't want to deal with that, since I'm not a car buff and don't really care to spend a lot of time working on my rig. If anything wasn't working right, I just wanted to be able to take it to the dealer and tell them "fix it".
Another initial reason for choosing the Rubi was that I wasn't even really planning on modding it. I just wanted a very offroad-capable stock vehicle that I didn't need to mess with. But I very quickly caught the disease, and now have a list of mods I'm slowly working on getting through. Overall I still don't plan on doing too much to it, so I'm happy with my choice.
I chose Rubi, and I'm happy with that decision for me. I wanted something very offroad-capable right out of the box (I started wheeling mine three weeks old) and all covered under the factory warranty. I heard stories of people having problems with mods they put in, and I didn't want to deal with that, since I'm not a car buff and don't really care to spend a lot of time working on my rig. If anything wasn't working right, I just wanted to be able to take it to the dealer and tell them "fix it".
Another initial reason for choosing the Rubi was that I wasn't even really planning on modding it. I just wanted a very offroad-capable stock vehicle that I didn't need to mess with. But I very quickly caught the disease, and now have a list of mods I'm slowly working on getting through. Overall I still don't plan on doing too much to it, so I'm happy with my choice.