Rubi or not?
I have an 07 X 2dr, auto, 410 gears that is the way it came when I bought it new and for $16,500 I could not complain. I wanted the Rubi but I was looking at 12K more. I have gone all Teraflex long arm, disco, winch, LOD bumpers wheels and tires and can add a Crawler adaptor and still not spend the 12k. BUT VERY CLOSE.
I have done all of the work and it has been a blast but that is not for everyone. If you don't have the tools, time or a place to do it get a Rubi.
I have done all of the work and it has been a blast but that is not for everyone. If you don't have the tools, time or a place to do it get a Rubi.
If the OP wasn't going to do options, I would agree, get a Rubi.
However, I think the point of the thread is.... If he is going to do a lot of mods, lockers, lift, etc... Is it still worth it to get a Rubi, then scrap quite a bit of the standard Rubi stuff to put mods on?
My answer to that is no. Hence why I got a X. Then slapped ARB lockers, 5.13's, 35's, etc on it. I think its more capable than a Rubi at this juncture.
However, I think the point of the thread is.... If he is going to do a lot of mods, lockers, lift, etc... Is it still worth it to get a Rubi, then scrap quite a bit of the standard Rubi stuff to put mods on?
My answer to that is no. Hence why I got a X. Then slapped ARB lockers, 5.13's, 35's, etc on it. I think its more capable than a Rubi at this juncture.
Last edited by Locklain; Oct 7, 2009 at 05:25 AM.
If you are going to wheel it and run 35s or 37s you are going to want the D44s front and rear. Instead of putting in ARB air lockers, keep the Rubi e-lockers along with the factory warranty. The Rubi 4:1 transfer case is geared nice a low for crawling. If you get the Rubi, you might find a lift, bigger tires and some recovery gear is all you need.
You actually can get around the cost of the xfer case. Rubicrawler!
As for the selling of take off parts, it makes absolutely no sense to spend an extra 5K on the rubi to sell take off parts to make an extra $500!

BTW, don't fergit that even with a rubi 44 front end you will still have to sleeve the tubes, gussets,.... they too are prone to bending.
As for the selling of take off parts, it makes absolutely no sense to spend an extra 5K on the rubi to sell take off parts to make an extra $500!

BTW, don't fergit that even with a rubi 44 front end you will still have to sleeve the tubes, gussets,.... they too are prone to bending.
The equation remains the same as to where you want to end up and where you started from. Then there's the part about the length of time it's going to take to get there and what you want to be driving in the interim. Then of course the cost differences of what you plan to sell off and what components you would keep. For me it would have made total sense to go the Rubicon route although that's not the decision I made at the time. For someone else I can't make that decision and I'm hard pressed to do so with so may undefined variables.
I got an X and there wasn't even much debate when I bought mine. I think I saved about $12,000 by not getting a Rubicon. That was enough for me to make my decision. I'm slowly adding mods and getting more into wheelin' as time goes by. I've heard of people getting new Rubicon's for like $26K. If that were possible when I bought mine, then sure I would have gone with the Rubicon, no brainer.
I don't regret my decision to go with the X at all. My plan has been to slowly mod over several years to make it better than a Rubicon eventually.
In my opinion it's more fun to have money to play around with to buy things like bumpers, lifts, tires, etc.
The Rubicon has some nice things out of the box, but the problem with electronics is they will eventually break and quit working (usually right after the warranty runs out). I don't even have power locks or power windows on mine.
I don't regret my decision to go with the X at all. My plan has been to slowly mod over several years to make it better than a Rubicon eventually.
In my opinion it's more fun to have money to play around with to buy things like bumpers, lifts, tires, etc.
The Rubicon has some nice things out of the box, but the problem with electronics is they will eventually break and quit working (usually right after the warranty runs out). I don't even have power locks or power windows on mine.
Definitely go with the X-model, save the 20 grand man (pmt+interest) seriously.. your talking the difference between a 300 a month payment and a 600 a month payment and plenty of people wheel x models like they are stolen. if your changing everything anyway, whats it matter? if i had got an x instead of a rubi i would have already been able to afford dropping in the teraflex dana 60s off what i saved in the payments alone (this past august made my one year point). everything else is trivial, yeah you want the 4.1 and the skid plates.. find a jeep in a junk yard that took a header and start grave robbing. economically its just smarter pure and simple.
and this is coming from a guy who has a loaded out rubicon.. buy cheap, build hard. Base x unlimited here is around 18-20k minus whatever incentives you get, rubicons are about 35k.. dude seriously, you can damn near get the 6.1 hemi put in for the price difference. (and i bet if you talk to screaming lizard before hand and work out a deal where they get to keep / resell that zero mile drivetrain, they would cut ya a hell of a deal, but hey what do i know... im just a guy who went with the expensive one to start with instead of taking the time to run the numbers.
good luck.
and this is coming from a guy who has a loaded out rubicon.. buy cheap, build hard. Base x unlimited here is around 18-20k minus whatever incentives you get, rubicons are about 35k.. dude seriously, you can damn near get the 6.1 hemi put in for the price difference. (and i bet if you talk to screaming lizard before hand and work out a deal where they get to keep / resell that zero mile drivetrain, they would cut ya a hell of a deal, but hey what do i know... im just a guy who went with the expensive one to start with instead of taking the time to run the numbers.
good luck.
Would you still want to go ARB if you got the RUBI? Seems as though the Rubi's lockers are pretty darn good from the factory.
That would be the decision point for me. If you must have ARB then I would buy a cheaper Jeep.
As for me I bought an X that I'm very happy with, but I seem to be trying to build it into an aftermarket version of a rubi by the time I am finished. I may have been cheaper and quicker just to have bought the Rubi. I would also have the 44 front and a better(I believe) transfer case.
My two cents worth. Either way you will have a great Jeep when your done. ENJOY!
That would be the decision point for me. If you must have ARB then I would buy a cheaper Jeep.
As for me I bought an X that I'm very happy with, but I seem to be trying to build it into an aftermarket version of a rubi by the time I am finished. I may have been cheaper and quicker just to have bought the Rubi. I would also have the 44 front and a better(I believe) transfer case.
My two cents worth. Either way you will have a great Jeep when your done. ENJOY!


