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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 02:19 PM
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Yup. This is going to be costly
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 02:44 PM
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I'm too lazy to do the research myself, but I'm guessing you ended up with a 60 front and 10.5 rear?

If the rear is a 10.5, I'm pretty sure you can toss a factory power wagon e-locker in the rear which had a higher spline count than the factory 10.5's. Not sure on the specifics, just going from memory.

Hubs and tone rings for the front are going to be interesting. I look forward to seeing what you come up with
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by D_engel
I'm too lazy to do the research myself, but I'm guessing you ended up with a 60 front and 10.5 rear? If the rear is a 10.5, I'm pretty sure you can toss a factory power wagon e-locker in the rear which had a higher spline count than the factory 10.5's. Not sure on the specifics, just going from memory. Hubs and tone rings for the front are going to be interesting. I look forward to seeing what you come up with
Haha. I didn't mean to paint a bad picture. I went with axles off a 2010 F350. D60 front, 10.5 rear. It's the cheapest way to beef. They're massive axles. 72" WMS to WMS. Front is 3.75" OD and 1/2" wall. Knuckles/ball joints are massive. 35 spline all the way around. Other than gears and lockers, nothing needs to be replaced (unless you buy one that is worn and needs new parts). The 10.5 rear is similar strength to a 14 bolt, but around 1.5" more ground clearence. Several guys machine the knuckle for high steer. Front has 58 tooth tone rings vs 55 on the JK. All you need to do on the front is splice the stock jk speed sensor wire to the ford speed sensor (small chance you have to buy a $20 dodge sensor, but easy fix). And small Procal adjustment for speed may be needed, but that's easy. For the rear, Ford added the 58 tooth rings in 2011. You can buy the rings from the dealer pretty cheap. Very minimal rear hub work and they press on.

Brakes also hook right up. JK brake lines work. I opted for new rotors and core exchange on the calipers.

As far as prep, the rear took 30 minutes with a plasma and grinder. The front.... Well, there's a lot of cast and brackets to cut. It's all elbow grease. I'd say 8 hours of labor on the front plasma cutting and grinding. A few weekends here and there and it was clean.

Regeared, locked, and ready to rock: $5k front and rear (includes cost of axles). That includes working with the jk electronics. I don't count brackets as I was going to a custom suspension and was changing brackets anyway. And that's for axles that are easily stronger than PR60s.

I've done months of research on the 2005-2010 Ford Super Duty axles. If you have question and there is an answer, I know it or can tell you where to find it. The aftermarket is catching up on these axles, so it is pretty good these days.
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
Haha. I didn't mean to paint a bad picture. I went with axles off a 2010 F350. D60 front, 10.5 rear. It's the cheapest way to beef. They're massive axles. 72" WMS to WMS. Front is 3.75" OD and 1/2" wall. Knuckles/ball joints are massive. 35 spline all the way around. Other than gears and lockers, nothing needs to be replaced (unless you buy one that is worn and needs new parts). The 10.5 rear is similar strength to a 14 bolt, but around 1.5" more ground clearence. Several guys machine the knuckle for high steer. Front has 58 tooth tone rings vs 55 on the JK. All you need to do on the front is splice the stock jk speed sensor wire to the ford speed sensor (small chance you have to buy a $20 dodge sensor, but easy fix). And small Procal adjustment for speed may be needed, but that's easy. For the rear, Ford added the 58 tooth rings in 2011. You can buy the rings from the dealer pretty cheap. Very minimal rear hub work and they press on. Brakes also hook right up. JK brake lines work. I opted for new rotors and core exchange on the calipers. As far as prep, the rear took 30 minutes with a plasma and grinder. The front.... Well, there's a lot of cast and brackets to cut. It's all elbow grease. I'd say 8 hours of labor on the front plasma cutting and grinding. A few weekends here and there and it was clean. Regeared, locked, and ready to rock: $5k front and rear (includes cost of axles). That includes working with the jk electronics. I don't count brackets as I was going to a custom suspension and was changing brackets anyway. And that's for axles that are easily stronger than PR60s. I've done months of research on the 2005-2010 Ford Super Duty axles. If you have question and there is an answer, I know it or can tell you where to find it. The aftermarket is catching up on these axles, so it is pretty good these days.
What tires you gonna run on those axles 40s or going to 42s?
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
Haha. I didn't mean to paint a bad picture. I went with axles off a 2010 F350. D60 front, 10.5 rear. It's the cheapest way to beef. They're massive axles. 72" WMS to WMS. Front is 3.75" OD and 1/2" wall. Knuckles/ball joints are massive. 35 spline all the way around. Other than gears and lockers, nothing needs to be replaced (unless you buy one that is worn and needs new parts). The 10.5 rear is similar strength to a 14 bolt, but around 1.5" more ground clearence. Several guys machine the knuckle for high steer. Front has 58 tooth tone rings vs 55 on the JK. All you need to do on the front is splice the stock jk speed sensor wire to the ford speed sensor (small chance you have to buy a $20 dodge sensor, but easy fix). And small Procal adjustment for speed may be needed, but that's easy. For the rear, Ford added the 58 tooth rings in 2011. You can buy the rings from the dealer pretty cheap. Very minimal rear hub work and they press on.

Brakes also hook right up. JK brake lines work. I opted for new rotors and core exchange on the calipers.

As far as prep, the rear took 30 minutes with a plasma and grinder. The front.... Well, there's a lot of cast and brackets to cut. It's all elbow grease. I'd say 8 hours of labor on the front plasma cutting and grinding. A few weekends here and there and it was clean.

Regeared, locked, and ready to rock: $5k front and rear (includes cost of axles). That includes working with the jk electronics. I don't count brackets as I was going to a custom suspension and was changing brackets anyway. And that's for axles that are easily stronger than PR60s.

I've done months of research on the 2005-2010 Ford Super Duty axles. If you have question and there is an answer, I know it or can tell you where to find it. The aftermarket is catching up on these axles, so it is pretty good these days.
I need you to point me in the direction of those axles. Especially the site you mentioned in the PM
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Monte417
What tires you gonna run on those axles 40s or going to 42s?
Haha. You guys are going to steal my thunder before I start my build thread this coming weekend! 40s.
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DunnyBunny
I need you to point me in the direction of those axles. Especially the site you mentioned in the PM
Will do. There are a couple other forum members that deserve some credit regarding these axles. Not my place to call them out, but they're there if you search.
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
Haha. You guys are going to steal my thunder before I start my build thread this coming weekend! 40s.
You guys already stole my thunder and I've just got my axles. Haha
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
Haha. I didn't mean to paint a bad picture. I went with axles off a.......
Sorry man, that post was directed at the OP. Good to see that making the wiring play nice is easier than I thought. I've actually got a couple questions for you regarding that 10.5, but I'll wait until you start a thread


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You guys already stole my thunder and I've just got my axles. Haha

hah don't worry man, you'll get it back. We just need some fab porn to keep us happy!
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