Yes in parks there always ppl willing to lend a hand but when ur out on ur own you better have some self recovery gear. Can't afford a winch? Buy a come-a-long, or a HiLift. Can't afford the $200 arb recovery bag? Get the $70 HiLift recovery bag. U can always add to the smaller kits later, always options out there but u don't wanna wait for the best sometimes.

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I bought a Warn M8000, so now it is time to accessories. I, agree bigger is better! If, you look at a doubled line, that is 16,000 lbs. max and just the jk, add 4,000 lbs. more, your at 20,000 lbs. max and I have not even added in if your stuck in the clay around here! So, 30,000 lbs it is.