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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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ok, drove to lunch today and noticed i have some squeaking going on.. kinda loud. i have a 3.25" lift with 35s on a 2 dr with a 6 speed. i got a tom woods rear shaft installed last week. i have had u-joints go bad and they squeak like this.. the shop that installed the shaft said that the tom woods they come greased so they didnt grease the u-joints. i have to go back and get them to install the dust shield because they forgot to do that... i am buying a grease gun tonight so i can grease the u-joints to see if that cures it.

and it squeaks louder when i am off the throttle. kind of quiets down when i am gassing it..

my questions are:

what grease gun should i get and where from? what grease should i use?

and does this sounds like the u-joints are squeaking?

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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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This may not be the sound you are hearing but I have found that the sway bar links that came with my lift will squeak like crazy if it is not lubed. The heim joints have no grease points and need to have the grease worked in.
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 04:12 AM
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mine is using the stock front links and extended rear links.. neither have heim joints... i greased it last night (the driveshaft that is) and no squeaky... but it decreased significantly on the drive home and now isnt doing it at all..
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by smbundy13
mine is using the stock front links and extended rear links.. neither have heim joints... i greased it last night (the driveshaft that is) and no squeaky... but it decreased significantly on the drive home and now isnt doing it at all..
You have stock links with a 3.25" lift?

You must not wheel it often or at all. With that amount of lift, the links are likely to flip on you and cause some damage.

Regarding the grease guns, it depends whether you want air or manual. Go to your local Sears and you can pick one up for $30. Craftsman and Lincoln are decent brands. Depends on how often you use them.

Stu-offroad dot com has some good info on the type of grease. It looks like someone e-mailed Tom Woods about the type of grease and he replied as follows:

I get asked this question often and the answer has always been that; "I believe a frequent and thorough greasing is more important than the type of grease you use". This is primarily because, one of the main results of a proper lubrication is a "flushing out" of any contaminates. It seems that a little grease and dirt make an excellent grinding compound. While greasing, if you pump in grease until you see clean grease come out past ALL the seals, you will insure that most of the contaminants will be washed away.

I've taken a look at the lubrication recommendations from some Spicer universal joints (greasable and non-greasable) on my shelf and they read as follows:

Spicer Re-Lube Light/Medium Duty........ "Lithium base greases meeting NLGI Grade 1 or Grade 2 are preferred"....

Spicer Pre -Lube Light/Medium Duty........ "Do not add lubrication Do not mix bearing caps on journals"...... "Miss-matching of cups on cross will result in improper quantities of lubrication in cups causing premature joint failure. Addition of lubricant may damage bearing* cup seals leading to premature joint failure" * ar (ours–obvious miss-spelling)

The NGLI is the National Grease Lubricating Institute (I' ll bet it's a pretty boring place). It is the umbrella organization that sets the standards for the properties of different greases, oils and other lubricants. Again, although I am not an authority on the subject, I do know that the grade will typically refer to the viscosity of the lubrication, with a grade 1 being less viscous than a grade 2. The lithium is the base to which the lubrication is added. In this case I believe that lithium is basically a soap base. There are other bases to which the lubrication can be added, Molybdenum Disulfide for example, which is typically referred to as a "moly" grease. You or your readers can get all the information they need or want about the specific properties of each grade and designation of greases at this web site.

Beyond that there are a few general parameters that I would suggest in selecting the grease. Temperature rating should be at least 300 degrees. This may sound awfully high but it wouldn't be uncommon for the drive shaft to reach an operating temperature of ~250 degrees and it's important that the lubrication doesn't separate from the base and boil off. There is also a load rating to consider. Theoretically at least, if you can prevent metal to metal contact, you will prevent wear. Greases and oils will have what is known as a "Timken Load Rating". While I'm not qualified to explain all the technical information of a Timken Load Rating, it is basically the rating of the lubricant to withstand certain amounts of pressure before smearing so thin as to allow surface to surface contact. The Timken Load Rating should be sufficient for the intended use. Most greases will probably be adequate with the exception of thin motor assembly grease. The viscosity should be in the range that will allow for a good flow past all the wearing components while servicing. Again, this is for the "flushing out" of the contaminates while servicing. Very high viscosity in the grease may actually be detrimental as higher viscosity greased tend to create more heat than would a more freely flowing grease. Remember to that ultimately, heat is one of the real enemies here. If you run in a lot of water or mud, it may also be good to use a grease that has water resistant characteristics.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 04:36 AM
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well the squeak is back and better than ever.. well not really better, but it is more noticeable now.. i am taking my jeep to the shop that put the driveshaft on tonight.
i guess i will keep yall posted on what the deal is.
and no i dont wheel very much right now.. i work too much and study for the cpa exam during the non working time.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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ok, got the jeep back today and they figured out what was squeaking like crazy in my driveshaft.. the ball inside the cv joint wasnt greasaed very well from tom woods. apparently neither was the entire shaft for that matter. so if you get new driveshafts be sure to grease them very good. the inner ball that was squeaking takes a special needle type of fitting to inject grease into it.. but it is greased good now and not squeaking.. just fyi
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by smbundy13
ok, got the jeep back today and they figured out what was squeaking like crazy in my driveshaft.. the ball inside the cv joint wasnt greasaed very well from tom woods. apparently neither was the entire shaft for that matter. so if you get new driveshafts be sure to grease them very good. the inner ball that was squeaking takes a special needle type of fitting to inject grease into it.. but it is greased good now and not squeaking.. just fyi
That's great! Glad you got it worked out!

Now go get some extended front sway bar links!
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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haha. yeah i know i need them wicked bad. what are the best ones to get? jks? i actually have sway bar quick discos that came with the lift but i have to get 2 bolts because they didnt come with the top bolts.. just gotta get the time to figure out what size and length to get..
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