TF exhaust spacers installed - issues
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TF exhaust spacers installed - issues
1st issue - 3 of the 4 stock bolts were finger tight. When I say that I mean I literally removed with no wrench. This from the factory with 1000 miles on the odo.
2nd issue - TF this is a great product and solution to the DS issue for small lift BUT please either add complete threaded or shorter bolts. Driver side would have used +6 washers to eliminate bottoming out threads. Trip to Lowe's fixed this (2 M8 x 1.25 x 70).
3rd issue - just a quick thank you to Jeep designers for putting the clamp bolt on top of the pipe.....makes it real easy to get to!!!!!!
2nd issue - TF this is a great product and solution to the DS issue for small lift BUT please either add complete threaded or shorter bolts. Driver side would have used +6 washers to eliminate bottoming out threads. Trip to Lowe's fixed this (2 M8 x 1.25 x 70).
3rd issue - just a quick thank you to Jeep designers for putting the clamp bolt on top of the pipe.....makes it real easy to get to!!!!!!
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1st issue - 3 of the 4 stock bolts were finger tight. When I say that I mean I literally removed with no wrench. This from the factory with 1000 miles on the odo.
2nd issue - TF this is a great product and solution to the DS issue for small lift BUT please either add complete threaded or shorter bolts. Driver side would have used +6 washers to eliminate bottoming out threads. Trip to Lowe's fixed this (2 M8 x 1.25 x 70).
3rd issue - just a quick thank you to Jeep designers for putting the clamp bolt on top of the pipe.....makes it real easy to get to!!!!!!
2nd issue - TF this is a great product and solution to the DS issue for small lift BUT please either add complete threaded or shorter bolts. Driver side would have used +6 washers to eliminate bottoming out threads. Trip to Lowe's fixed this (2 M8 x 1.25 x 70).
3rd issue - just a quick thank you to Jeep designers for putting the clamp bolt on top of the pipe.....makes it real easy to get to!!!!!!
haha this made me laugh...I installed the AFE Y-Pipe a few weeks ago on my 2012 JKU...
In regards to...
1. Mine were the exact same way, all 4, I was amazed they hadn't fallen off.
2. Didn't experience these issues with the AFE Y-Pipe, factory hardware was retained.
3. Fu*k that bolt...I had to go backwards and disconnect the pipes at the flanges, then remove the rest of the pipe from the dampeners or whatever they're called, then pull the damn thing as low as i could to get it loose with a breaker bar...it was a bitch.
FYI...I foolishly bought the TF Exhaust Spacers, then decided the AFE Y-Pipe would be the proper way to go...If anyone needs them, I will let them go for DIRT CHEAP!!
Last edited by FlameRedJK; Feb 19, 2012 at 10:30 AM.
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Just did my Teraflex Exhaust Spacers yesterday. My experience:
1. Yes, my stock bolts were removed by hand (3000kms odo). I too was surprised that they hadn't fallen out on their own.
2. The provided bolts do not have enough thread on them, so after piling on 6 washers, I decided to use a slightly larger nut instead as a spacer nut.
3. The Y-pipe clamp bolt was removed easily after it sat for an hour with penetrating oil all over it ;-)
4. Having the Y-pipe slide in farther was difficult at first until I decided to just install the spacers, pre-loading the exhaust system towards the back of the jeep, then with a 2x4 against the cat, hitting it towards the front of the jeep with a hammer. Worked awesome with 2 mild hits.
5. I measured before and after the distance... the exhaust spacers moved the exhaust cross over back an inch. So with my new JE Reel front drive shaft, I'm anticipating no issues on a Teraflex 4" short arm lift.
Cheers!
Paul.
1. Yes, my stock bolts were removed by hand (3000kms odo). I too was surprised that they hadn't fallen out on their own.
2. The provided bolts do not have enough thread on them, so after piling on 6 washers, I decided to use a slightly larger nut instead as a spacer nut.
3. The Y-pipe clamp bolt was removed easily after it sat for an hour with penetrating oil all over it ;-)
4. Having the Y-pipe slide in farther was difficult at first until I decided to just install the spacers, pre-loading the exhaust system towards the back of the jeep, then with a 2x4 against the cat, hitting it towards the front of the jeep with a hammer. Worked awesome with 2 mild hits.
5. I measured before and after the distance... the exhaust spacers moved the exhaust cross over back an inch. So with my new JE Reel front drive shaft, I'm anticipating no issues on a Teraflex 4" short arm lift.
Cheers!
Paul.
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Originally Posted by FlameRedJK
haha this made me laugh...I installed the AFE Y-Pipe a few weeks ago on my 2012 JKU...
In regards to...
1. Mine were the exact same way, all 4, I was amazed they hadn't fallen off.
2. Didn't experience these issues with the AFE Y-Pipe, factory hardware was retained.
3. Fu*k that bolt...I had to go backwards and disconnect the pipes at the flanges, then remove the rest of the pipe from the dampeners or whatever they're called, then pull the damn thing as low as i could to get it loose with a breaker bar...it was a bitch.
FYI...I foolishly bought the TF Exhaust Spacers, then decided the AFE Y-Pipe would be the proper way to go...If anyone needs them, I will let them go for DIRT CHEAP!!
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2012 LIFTED Jeeps:
Front Driveshaft Modifications are only neccesary on automatics.
Exhaust modifications are neccesary on all 2012's
(this information is listed on the AEV website)
(I was told by supporting forum vendor that I would need driveshafts without question,
I have been told repeatedly by AEV that I don't)
I was going to use the Tera-Flex spacers, as the weight gain of the y-pipe scares me vs. how light the spacers are. Also the spacers seem to be less invasive. I am told that Mopar went to a ton of trouble to make sure the exhaust lengths were the exact same on each side for best performance. I think the spacers retain that, and the y pipe strews away from that. Just my "two-cents"
Front Driveshaft Modifications are only neccesary on automatics.
Exhaust modifications are neccesary on all 2012's
(this information is listed on the AEV website)
(I was told by supporting forum vendor that I would need driveshafts without question,
I have been told repeatedly by AEV that I don't)
I was going to use the Tera-Flex spacers, as the weight gain of the y-pipe scares me vs. how light the spacers are. Also the spacers seem to be less invasive. I am told that Mopar went to a ton of trouble to make sure the exhaust lengths were the exact same on each side for best performance. I think the spacers retain that, and the y pipe strews away from that. Just my "two-cents"
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JK Enthusiast
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I had similar issues. BE SURE TO CHECK YOUR BOLTS SOON AFTER INSTALLING THE SPACERS!
Mine kept backing off until I put a stack of lock washers in place of the stack of flat washers required... So far so good.
Mine kept backing off until I put a stack of lock washers in place of the stack of flat washers required... So far so good.
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I bought new bolts for the spacers because of the issue where the 2 bolts were 2 long. I also had a bolt fall out without me knowing a few days after installing them it did not cause a leak so I just replaced the bolt.
I believe it is because of the heat cycles metal expands and contracts at different rates so defiantly check your bolts after you drive it a few times.
I believe it is because of the heat cycles metal expands and contracts at different rates so defiantly check your bolts after you drive it a few times.
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haha this made me laugh...I installed the AFE Y-Pipe a few weeks ago on my 2012 JKU...
In regards to...
1. Mine were the exact same way, all 4, I was amazed they hadn't fallen off.
2. Didn't experience these issues with the AFE Y-Pipe, factory hardware was retained.
3. Fu*k that bolt...I had to go backwards and disconnect the pipes at the flanges, then remove the rest of the pipe from the dampeners or whatever they're called, then pull the damn thing as low as i could to get it loose with a breaker bar...it was a bitch.
FYI...I foolishly bought the TF Exhaust Spacers, then decided the AFE Y-Pipe would be the proper way to go...If anyone needs them, I will let them go for DIRT CHEAP!!
In regards to...
1. Mine were the exact same way, all 4, I was amazed they hadn't fallen off.
2. Didn't experience these issues with the AFE Y-Pipe, factory hardware was retained.
3. Fu*k that bolt...I had to go backwards and disconnect the pipes at the flanges, then remove the rest of the pipe from the dampeners or whatever they're called, then pull the damn thing as low as i could to get it loose with a breaker bar...it was a bitch.
FYI...I foolishly bought the TF Exhaust Spacers, then decided the AFE Y-Pipe would be the proper way to go...If anyone needs them, I will let them go for DIRT CHEAP!!
Spacers were an interim until I could get my hands on a y pipe. I sprayed liquid wrench into the exhaust hangers to help get them off. There is a hook tool used in interior work that I used to help get the hangers on/off the holders. Real PITA. Love the y pipe though. Just need to get under and wrap it now.