Thots on Lift?
JK Jedi Master
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2.5" does not mean you are safe, and 3.5" does not automatically mean they will fail. Disconnected at 2.5" with longer shocks - shouldn't be all that difficult to find posts with pics of the joints spitting out all the grease. It is just more likely with taller lifts than shorter lifts.
I personally like taller lifts, but in your case, I suggested an option that fit your actual criteria.
JK Newbie
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I have a 2011 JKU Sport and have been thinking 2.5" lift and 35's BUT after reading this thread and checking out Metalcloaks website...
I am going NO Lift, metalcloak fenders (front and rear) when I get my 35's and new wheels...
Would a set of Rubicon take-off springs make a difference over my JKU Sport springs? curious...
I am going NO Lift, metalcloak fenders (front and rear) when I get my 35's and new wheels...
Would a set of Rubicon take-off springs make a difference over my JKU Sport springs? curious...
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I run the Overline fenders. Lots of clearance. There is a picture somewhere I can probably find of a guy running them with 38s and no lift. 35s would be cake. Trimming stock fenders flat gives a good 2" more clearance. The Overline fenders will give you another 2". They also provide a lot of protection. You can bounce off trees and rocks with no worries.
Mine will be for sale soon - already powder coated! Apologies to those sick of me pimping my parts in unrelated threads.
The benefit to running stock suspension is it works, no warranty concerns, and drives great. If I were to buy another JK, I'd leave the suspension stock and go with the Oveline fenders and 35s. Many guys I wheel with say the same thing. It just works. Most of the kits don't give you more travel. They can, but once the larger tires go on, bump stop gets added and you lose most of what you gained. The extra inch of travel really doesn't do much. If you want to spend a lot of money, sure, you can get a lot more travel. That is really only useful if you are playing in the big stuff.
As for belly clearance - get some good skids. Trust me, 95% of the time, you'll be getting hung up on all your low hanging axle and frame brackets. And get a winch. If you do get caught up, no biggie. Recovery is part of the fun and learning experience.
Mine will be for sale soon - already powder coated! Apologies to those sick of me pimping my parts in unrelated threads.
The benefit to running stock suspension is it works, no warranty concerns, and drives great. If I were to buy another JK, I'd leave the suspension stock and go with the Oveline fenders and 35s. Many guys I wheel with say the same thing. It just works. Most of the kits don't give you more travel. They can, but once the larger tires go on, bump stop gets added and you lose most of what you gained. The extra inch of travel really doesn't do much. If you want to spend a lot of money, sure, you can get a lot more travel. That is really only useful if you are playing in the big stuff.
As for belly clearance - get some good skids. Trust me, 95% of the time, you'll be getting hung up on all your low hanging axle and frame brackets. And get a winch. If you do get caught up, no biggie. Recovery is part of the fun and learning experience.
With skids, bumpers, fenders, and winch wouldn't the added weight sag the stock springs more than you would want?
Haha can't blame a guy for pimpin some goods! How much?
The overlines do look great and seem to function even better. The fronts are $839 before paint and rear $639. When I finally get around to lift/fenders/tires of some sort I was thinking the Aries (Genright copies) for about $600 total for front and back just due to cost. Granted they're not going to allow you to stuff a tire nearly as well as the Metalcloaks which adds in the dilemma of cost vs. function vs. personal use.
Just typing out my current thoughts and get informed feedback, not at all trying to prove a point or sway any decisions. I'm stock other than a couple skids and just trying to get as much information as I can to do things right the first time.
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With skids, bumpers, fenders, and winch wouldn't the added weight sag the stock springs more than you would want?
Haha can't blame a guy for pimpin some goods! How much?
The overlines do look great and seem to function even better. The fronts are $839 before paint and rear $639. When I finally get around to lift/fenders/tires of some sort I was thinking the Aries (Genright copies) for about $600 total for front and back just due to cost. Granted they're not going to allow you to stuff a tire nearly as well as the Metalcloaks which adds in the dilemma of cost vs. function vs. personal use.
Just typing out my current thoughts and get informed feedback, not at all trying to prove a point or sway any decisions. I'm stock other than a couple skids and just trying to get as much information as I can to do things right the first time.
Haha can't blame a guy for pimpin some goods! How much?
The overlines do look great and seem to function even better. The fronts are $839 before paint and rear $639. When I finally get around to lift/fenders/tires of some sort I was thinking the Aries (Genright copies) for about $600 total for front and back just due to cost. Granted they're not going to allow you to stuff a tire nearly as well as the Metalcloaks which adds in the dilemma of cost vs. function vs. personal use.
Just typing out my current thoughts and get informed feedback, not at all trying to prove a point or sway any decisions. I'm stock other than a couple skids and just trying to get as much information as I can to do things right the first time.
Not sure on price - haven't officially listed them. Really though, I didn't think I paid as much new as you quoted above. That sucks...
JK Enthusiast
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Weight is a fair comment. In that case it probably makes sense to add some coil spacers or leveling springs to get back to normal. Pretty easy fix.
Not sure on price - haven't officially listed them. Really though, I didn't think I paid as much new as you quoted above. That sucks...
Not sure on price - haven't officially listed them. Really though, I didn't think I paid as much new as you quoted above. That sucks...
Those prices were for the Overlines and the detachable 8" fenders for the front and the Exoskin and detachable 6" fenders for the rear. As long as I'm reading the website correctly.
JK Jedi Master
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There are quite a few lighter-weight or minimalist bumpers out there to choose from, no need for massive bumpers at both ends. (unless you just really like that look, I guess?) Winches are always good to have, though, especially if you tend to go out alone like I do.
JK Enthusiast
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I would take the suggestion from earlier in the thread about gaining experience and finding better lines before immediately running out and buying a full set of armor. The stock skids seem to be decent for what they are - use them until you actually find that you need more.
There are quite a few lighter-weight or minimalist bumpers out there to choose from, no need for massive bumpers at both ends. (unless you just really like that look, I guess?) Winches are always good to have, though, especially if you tend to go out alone like I do.
There are quite a few lighter-weight or minimalist bumpers out there to choose from, no need for massive bumpers at both ends. (unless you just really like that look, I guess?) Winches are always good to have, though, especially if you tend to go out alone like I do.
As far as bumpers I like the smaller ones like ARB stubby, PSC brawler lite, or Warn stubby. Either ACE or Bestop Highrock for rear if/when I need. I'm not a huge fan of the massive bumpers but want to protect the body (rear). And current thought is to get a Warn M8000 so I can go out alone if I choose.
Trying to find what's functional at the lowest cost, while still looking decent. Sorry if I'm hijacking the thread. Hopefully just adding some more information! (questions from me and info from the experienced lol)
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Sorry, they were 37s. Here is the build thread for the above mentioned JK. Looks awesome. No Lift 37's - JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum
My sense is while this technically meets my parameters (driveline, etc) it opens me up to another set of potential issues And from a cost standpoint is probably more expensive. Also seems like More of an add on mod to a lift. Vs doing a lift.
That said... Looks pretty cool. Thanks for sharing!
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Sorry, they were 37s. Here is the build thread for the above mentioned JK. Looks awesome.
No Lift 37's - JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum
No Lift 37's - JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum
by Invest2m4
This is impressive! But with 37s ..... My sense is while this technically meets my parameters (driveline, etc)
This is impressive! But with 37s ..... My sense is while this technically meets my parameters (driveline, etc)
37"s on stock JKUR would require the OP to re-gear his 4.1 .
There will be quite a lot more strain on the drivetrain, steering and brakes, so a list of other mods will be needed to maintain reliability, even for driving on road only.
mpg will be worse, and the overall price when all is done, will be higher vs 35"s and 2.5" lift.
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37"s on stock JKUR would require the OP to re-gear his 4.1 . There will be quite a lot more strain on the drivetrain, steering and brakes, so a list of other mods will be needed to maintain reliability, even for driving on road only. mpg will be worse, and the overall price when all is done, will be higher vs 35"s and 2.5" lift.