Thoughts on OR-Fab Bumpers.
My jeep sits on a set of OME hd springs and ome nitro charger shocks.
Stock on sahara springs I saw a big sag with my bumper and winch. But the winch was 2/3rds of the weight of the setup. So divide the sag of 1.5 to 2 inches and you get 0.5 to 0.67 inches of sag.
Being on rubi coils (and my factory coils were BEAT) you should see a little less then that with the bumper alone. It's a sweet product. I'm a huge fan of or fab products, and if you buy this bumper you'll see why.
Stock on sahara springs I saw a big sag with my bumper and winch. But the winch was 2/3rds of the weight of the setup. So divide the sag of 1.5 to 2 inches and you get 0.5 to 0.67 inches of sag.
Being on rubi coils (and my factory coils were BEAT) you should see a little less then that with the bumper alone. It's a sweet product. I'm a huge fan of or fab products, and if you buy this bumper you'll see why.
I just saw this thread and I have to post on how great or-fab is...
The first thing i bought for my jeep was my rear tire carrier after a year it was rusting like CRAZY! so i emailed Yates and then i got a call from Steve the president of Or-fab stating they are going to send me a re-do and going to replace my rear tire carrier for free!!!!! you do not get that kind of service from over sea's company's.... After this great service I made a quick call to Nothridge4x4 to order up my or-fab stinger shorty bumper because of the great service I received... I also bought the rear sheet metal bumper from or-fab
Everything that Or-fab makes is rock solid and the best part is they stand behind there product that is un-heard of now adays....
Cons:
there bumpers/swing out tire carrier combo do weigh a ton!!! but if you want quality or something that is not going to break you need to expect it to be some what heavy... the only problem with this is my coil springs are now sagging in the rear big time!!!
current set up:
Front:
3" teraflex coils 1/2" teraflex spacer- or-fab stinger bumper with 8500 pound superwinch
Rear:
3" teraflex coils 2.5" teraflex spacer- Or-fab sheetmetal bumper and or-fab swing out tire carrier with one Jerry can and 315/70/17 good year duratrac tire with xd additc 17x9 rim
Currently the rear is sitting .5 inch's higher in the rear with 2.5 inch spacer... before with out the spacer it was sitting about 2 inch's lower in the rear than in the front.
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Currently working on the correct coil set up so everything sits even.... I will post back up with my findings... Do not let the weight deter you from the company though they do make incredible products and I cant wait to get more stuff from Or-fab

The first thing i bought for my jeep was my rear tire carrier after a year it was rusting like CRAZY! so i emailed Yates and then i got a call from Steve the president of Or-fab stating they are going to send me a re-do and going to replace my rear tire carrier for free!!!!! you do not get that kind of service from over sea's company's.... After this great service I made a quick call to Nothridge4x4 to order up my or-fab stinger shorty bumper because of the great service I received... I also bought the rear sheet metal bumper from or-fab

Everything that Or-fab makes is rock solid and the best part is they stand behind there product that is un-heard of now adays....
Cons:
there bumpers/swing out tire carrier combo do weigh a ton!!! but if you want quality or something that is not going to break you need to expect it to be some what heavy... the only problem with this is my coil springs are now sagging in the rear big time!!!
current set up:
Front:
3" teraflex coils 1/2" teraflex spacer- or-fab stinger bumper with 8500 pound superwinch
Rear:
3" teraflex coils 2.5" teraflex spacer- Or-fab sheetmetal bumper and or-fab swing out tire carrier with one Jerry can and 315/70/17 good year duratrac tire with xd additc 17x9 rim
Currently the rear is sitting .5 inch's higher in the rear with 2.5 inch spacer... before with out the spacer it was sitting about 2 inch's lower in the rear than in the front.
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Currently working on the correct coil set up so everything sits even.... I will post back up with my findings... Do not let the weight deter you from the company though they do make incredible products and I cant wait to get more stuff from Or-fab


I have the rear one and I love it! Very solid and easy to mount. Added the tire carrier as well!
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Or fab is at the top of my Christmas wish list....just a general comment about weight. Pile on a bunch of steel at either end, and it's going to weigh a ton. I've been researching bumpers and tire carriers for 2 months. Unless you go aluminum ANY quality combo is a big weight penalty. Or fab is not unique, or any heavier than average.
I have the stinger and it works great for pushing people out of the way that cut you off in traffic! The weight is not bad the same as any other after market bumper your going to put on your jeep. But the only thing I do not like about it is you can have a winch or fog lights but not both which is kind of a downer for anyone that has a 4 inch lift or higher.
I have both their front and rear bumpers. Stubby with loop up front and "sheet metal" in the rear. The rear "revised design" requires that you drill two holes which the instructions didn't mention. Called support and they sent me the revised instructions which were not on their website. I had issues with bolt hole alignment on both which could be due to me installing them. Neither were major and I got them installed and most bolts connected. While I give them kudos for making sure that the packaging keeps the bumpers safe during shipping, I do have to say that I think it is overkill. I had foam everywhere getting them out of the box. What a mess.
I agree it would be nice to have both but I think a winch is needed more than the stock fog light holes.... instead I drilled into the bumper and installed two LED fog lights that work great. if you want pictures of where I drilled into the bumper I am more than happy to add pictures fyi i have the stinger bumper. you can also purchase the light mount bracket that attatchs by the winch location inbetween the stinger which might look pretty sweet. It is on my christmas list!!! 
I have the stinger and it works great for pushing people out of the way that cut you off in traffic! The weight is not bad the same as any other after market bumper your going to put on your jeep. But the only thing I do not like about it is you can have a winch or fog lights but not both which is kind of a downer for anyone that has a 4 inch lift or higher.



