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Toe In Alignment Question

Old May 2, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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So I just got my lift put on the other day and I go to PepBoys(Best Price in Town) to get my Jeep aligned. The Rough Country instructions from my lift have what it needed to be set to, I believe it was .15? The alignment specialist comes and gets me and explains how it cannot be set because it is a straight axle and I need a different type of ball joint to set this?

I haven't seen anywhere in my instructions or from reading that there is another part I need to buy to get my Toe In set right. Am I missing something? The Jeep appears to drive perfect after my lift, it pulls slightly and I mean VERY slightly to the right. And if I hit a big pot hole or Rail Road Tracks it feels like it tries to wobble, then stops after 1-2 seconds if even that long.

Any advice is greatly appreciated, you guys rock here.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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Good question? I've wondered the same. Hey did you get to the brake lines yet?
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Old May 2, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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Toe is just the front tie rod being adjusted. No parts needed. If they are talking about adjustable ball joints, they are probably talking about the caster or camber. Neither of those can be adjusted without ball joints.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 09:33 AM
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unlike older TJ's, the design of the JK steering is not effected with a lift and NO toe adjustment is required.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JeepinBoy
Toe is just the front tie rod being adjusted. No parts needed. If they are talking about adjustable ball joints, they are probably talking about the caster or camber. Neither of those can be adjusted without ball joints.
Yeah he was talking about caster and camber so that makes sense. But he said he could not get the Toe In because of needing those Adjustable Ball Joints.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by redleg13fa
Good question? I've wondered the same. Hey did you get to the brake lines yet?
Tonight I'm going to force them down and get it done.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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Here's a quick explanation.

4wheelonline.com/superlift_technicalinfo.htm

Also with wider tires they grab the road more and since most roads are built with a crown to draw the water off the road the vehicle wants to pull down hill. (to the right) ANOTHER reason I personally believe is a lot of roads have ruts from big rigs and the sun heating up the road and wearing tracks in the road. If your driving style is a little more curb hugger then center line hugger your tire wants to grab the edge of the rut and turn usually to the right because most people are curb huggers. Try driving a little more towards the center line and your tires will want to pull to the left more, and when there's a crowned road they almost balance each other out and it drives straighter.

Hope that wasn't to confusing, hate typing on my phone.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake

Yeah he was talking about caster and camber so that makes sense. But he said he could not get the Toe In because of needing those Adjustable Ball Joints.
Well he lied. You can adjust the toe yourself, super easy. You want your toe to be toed in 1/16-1/8 of an inch. Here's a link for that.

http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-write-...-end-alignment

Caster being off will make the jeep feel like its very flighty, constantly correcting your steering to stay on course. It sounds to me your pleased with the alignment. Not sure what tire size your running, but I would throw on a beefier steering stabilizer for the bump steer, make sure track bar bolts are tight and call it good.

Also just keep an eye on tire wear and rotate often.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
Yeah he was talking about caster and camber so that makes sense. But he said he could not get the Toe In because of needing those Adjustable Ball Joints.
Sounds like there is a little mis-communication going on here.

Maybe he means adjusting the toe now is pointless if you need adjustable ball joints for the the caster/camber.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
Yeah he was talking about caster and camber so that makes sense. But he said he could not get the Toe In because of needing those Adjustable Ball Joints.
lol at ignorant tech.

the alignment shops ive used in the past have computers that tell them exactly how to do the alignment adjustments. im amazed the tech didnt know how to adjust your toe.
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