Notices
Modified JK Tech Tech related bulletin board forum regarding subjects such as suspension, tires & wheels, steering, bumpers, skid plates, drive train, cages, on-board air and other useful modifications that will help improve the performance and protection of your Jeep JK Wrangler (Rubicon, Sahara, Unlimited and X) on the trail.

PLEASE DO NOT START SHOW & TELL TYPE THREADS IN THIS FORUM

Toe In Degrees Question

Thread Tools
 
Old Feb 9, 2011 | 07:13 PM
  #11  
mkjeep's Avatar
JK Jedi Master
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 15,665
Likes: 4
From: Hammond Louisiana
Default

Originally Posted by Hawnted
I was at .1 total, now I am at -.20 ( negative .20). Meaning I am toe out. So do I need to go to .2 total toe or .1 total toe? I think you are saying I need .1 total so 0.05 for left and 0.05 for right correct?
You could go .1 and .1 for total .20 or any other variation to get you in the .10 thru .24 total toe, that puts you within factory spec. .20 is middle of the road factory spec.
Hell, split the difference and run .15 , thats what I run on my 37's. Again, the alinement machine can vary abit each time soooo as far as my measurements vs machine it looked to be about 1/8in toe in.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2011 | 07:20 PM
  #12  
mkjeep's Avatar
JK Jedi Master
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 15,665
Likes: 4
From: Hammond Louisiana
Default

Originally Posted by ronjenx
Sure there is.... by combining tie rod and drag link adjustments.
My tierod adj sleeve rotates one way toe-in, one way toe out for both tires. Please elaborate.
With a rockrwaler tierod I can see it being different since you adjust each end independently.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2011 | 07:20 PM
  #13  
Hawnted's Avatar
Thread Starter
JK Enthusiast
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
From: Middle TN
Default

Originally Posted by mkjeep
You could go .1 and .1 for total .20 or any other variation to get you in the .10 thru .24 total toe, that puts you within factory spec. .20 is middle of the road factory spec.
Hell, split the difference and run .15 , thats what I run on my 37's. Again, the alinement machine can vary abit each time soooo as far as my measurements vs machine it looked to be about 1/8in toe in.
Gotcha thanks. Not really sure why this guy is so convinced that the negative toe he set me at is toe in, but he will not back down. I told him I will be up there tomorrow and to set it to positive regardless. I measured my toe myself when I got home, and I came up with 5/32 toe out. I would just do it myself, but hell I paid 25 bucks might as well get it done by a machine.

Last edited by Hawnted; Feb 9, 2011 at 07:22 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2011 | 07:23 PM
  #14  
mkjeep's Avatar
JK Jedi Master
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 15,665
Likes: 4
From: Hammond Louisiana
Default

Originally Posted by Hawnted
Gotcha thanks. Not really sure why this guy is so convinced that the negative toe he set me at is toe in, but he will not back down. I told him I will be up there tomorrow and to set it to positive regardless.
Yeah, I dunno either, maybe he knows he made a mistake and won't come clean. I'd prolly take it somewhere else.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2011 | 07:40 PM
  #15  
ronjenx's Avatar
JK Jedi Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,907
Likes: 185
From: Maine
Default

Originally Posted by mkjeep
My tierod adj sleeve rotates one way toe-in, one way toe out for both tires. Please elaborate.
With a rockrwaler tierod I can see it being different since you adjust each end independently.
With the steering box at neutral:

Let's say the right tire is where you want it, but the left tire is too far out.
Bring it in with the tie rod.

Let's say the left tire is where you want it, but the right tire is too far out.
Bring it in with the tie rod, then correct the steering box with drag link.

This assumes you can measure the toe on an individual tire, which an alignment machine can.

It's just another way of looking at it.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2011 | 07:53 PM
  #16  
Hawnted's Avatar
Thread Starter
JK Enthusiast
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
From: Middle TN
Default

Found this. Hopefully it will help someone else in my situation.

http://www.smartracingproducts.com/p...e_settings.pdf

Or you can do this to get the desired toe in

arcsin ((1/8)/32) * (180/pi)

where 1/8 is the desired toe in, and 32 is the actual tire diameter.

Last edited by Hawnted; Feb 9, 2011 at 08:14 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2011 | 08:05 PM
  #17  
SilverJK12's Avatar
JK Super Freak
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,139
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, OK
Default

Originally Posted by Hawnted
I was at .1 total, now I am at -.20 ( negative .20). Meaning I am toe out. So do I need to go to .2 total toe or .1 total toe? I think you are saying I need .1 total so 0.05 for left and 0.05 for right correct?
based on info if correct stated above it should be

TOTAL TOE-IN + 0.20° (0.10° each front wheel) ±0.03°
MAX LT/RT DIFFERENCE 0.04°
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2011 | 06:16 AM
  #18  
Hawnted's Avatar
Thread Starter
JK Enthusiast
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
From: Middle TN
Default

Originally Posted by SilverJK12
based on info if correct stated above it should be

TOTAL TOE-IN + 0.20° (0.10° each front wheel) ±0.03°
MAX LT/RT DIFFERENCE 0.04°
They fixed it this morning.

Reply




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:59 PM.