View Poll Results: Which Tire?
KM2
174
56.13%
Toyo M/T
136
43.87%
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Toyo Vs. KM2
JK Super Freak
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Well yes and no. There are some groves that don't necessarily run close to perpendicular to the direction of travel that they call siping. I wouldn't call it siping but minor grooving. Go to this Bridgestone website:
bridgestonetire.com/Index_BS_EN.aspx?src=Bridgestone_Photos
and click on one of the pics of a Blizzak tire. I clicked on the Revo 1 Non Directional because that is what I have on my wifes car. THAT is siping. The Blizzak is the most amazing winter tire I've ever come across and I have pushed this tire hard to establish it's limits. Hard enough that the instructors at the Bridgestone Winter Driving school got mad at me for pushing the equipment too hard.
So no, the Toyo isn't REALLY siped. However I have no doubt that a Toyo that was really siped, as in the post you responded to, would be a much better tire than stock. I know my siped KM2's are. Having said all that I would NOT let a tire shop sipe my tires. They use a machine that is designed to make them money by being quick. I think a person could buy a siping tool for the cost of having it done to one set of tires, invest a couple of hours, and have a much better job.
bridgestonetire.com/Index_BS_EN.aspx?src=Bridgestone_Photos
and click on one of the pics of a Blizzak tire. I clicked on the Revo 1 Non Directional because that is what I have on my wifes car. THAT is siping. The Blizzak is the most amazing winter tire I've ever come across and I have pushed this tire hard to establish it's limits. Hard enough that the instructors at the Bridgestone Winter Driving school got mad at me for pushing the equipment too hard.
So no, the Toyo isn't REALLY siped. However I have no doubt that a Toyo that was really siped, as in the post you responded to, would be a much better tire than stock. I know my siped KM2's are. Having said all that I would NOT let a tire shop sipe my tires. They use a machine that is designed to make them money by being quick. I think a person could buy a siping tool for the cost of having it done to one set of tires, invest a couple of hours, and have a much better job.
Can you post a picture of your siped KM2's?
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JK-Forum Founder
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i ran trxus m/t's on my tj for years and yeah, they are a tough tire and would give toyos a real run for the money especially in snow/ice. however, unlike toyos, trxus mt's are almost impossible to balance and they wear out very quickly.
JK Junkie
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From: Twain Harte, CA
As for balancing, never seen any issues there. They are a radial, and balance fine in my experience. Now bias ply TSL's are another story. I tend to just run no weights on them.
JK-Forum Founder
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They wear out quicker because of their softer compound, which is what gives them better traction.
As for balancing, never seen any issues there. They are a radial, and balance fine in my experience. Now bias ply TSL's are another story. I tend to just run no weights on them.
As for balancing, never seen any issues there. They are a radial, and balance fine in my experience. Now bias ply TSL's are another story. I tend to just run no weights on them.
as far as traction goes, i don't know if i would go so far as to say that they are "better" than toyos. maybe about as good at most but that's about it. still, after having run both tires for an extended period of time, i would pick toyos any day of the week just for their toughness, outstanding traction, smooth ride and longevity.
JK Super Freak
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JK Super Freak
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The tailgate is not designed to carry the weight of either 35 or 37" tire. The needed spa
JK Newbie
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From: Mesa, AZ
I can't speak for the KM2's but I have had 2 sets of toyo MT's (285's and 38's) and I loved them. I never noticed the weight (probably because they were on a 1 ton pickup with a procharged 454) I will absolutely go with these tires again. They wear great, they're relatively quiet, they're versitile, just my .02
JK Junkie
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From: Twain Harte, CA