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Old May 28, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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Comparing baja to a jeep off road is like apple and oranges. Most baja racers do not run a track bar. They run a triangulated set up. Their articualtion is problably better than 99% of jeeps. They run over 24" of wheel travel. Jeep track bar bracket have been weak ever since the TJ. The added stress of the relocation bracket on the axle is making it worse. Skyjacker has fixed their problem with a bracket that goes from the pumpkin to the track bar. This stops the stress of the pulling track bar. This is something that even stock track bars should have. I had one on my tj before I went to a triangulated set up.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by IGOFSHN
Comparing baja to a jeep off road is like apple and oranges. Most baja racers do not run a track bar. They run a triangulated set up. Their articualtion is problably better than 99% of jeeps. They run over 24" of wheel travel. Jeep track bar bracket have been weak ever since the TJ. The added stress of the relocation bracket on the axle is making it worse. Skyjacker has fixed their problem with a bracket that goes from the pumpkin to the track bar. This stops the stress of the pulling track bar. This is something that even stock track bars should have. I had one on my tj before I went to a triangulated set up.
Hey, thanks for that.. I do like the triangulated setup and will probably put one of those system's on mine when I go to do my lift..!!

(unless someone can talk me out of it) :<)

AHH, I mean show me a better setup..!!!

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Old May 28, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by IGOFSHN
Comparing baja to a jeep off road is like apple and oranges. Most baja racers do not run a track bar. They run a triangulated set up. Their articualtion is problably better than 99% of jeeps. They run over 24" of wheel travel. Jeep track bar bracket have been weak ever since the TJ. The added stress of the relocation bracket on the axle is making it worse. Skyjacker has fixed their problem with a bracket that goes from the pumpkin to the track bar. This stops the stress of the pulling track bar. This is something that even stock track bars should have. I had one on my tj before I went to a triangulated set up.
Yup there's really a lot of different suspension setups used by baja racers. Most of them have a lot of money invested as well. Baja racers tend to be worried about strength and absorbtion due to going over obstacles at high speeds. Im sure there are some baja racers with better articulation than our jeeps but then there are alot of them that don't have much articulation. Let me put it this way, if I were doing a baja race I would not disconnect my sway bars. But it is really hard to compare when there are so many different types of vehicles that compete.

I agree that the relocation brackets are not a good idea but most of them seem to be working fine. I wheel my jeep pretty hard and iv had no trouble with my FT rear bracket which is one that comes down from the body. The best solution is using a longer track bar. It really wouldn't be that hard to re-inforce the stock brackets or build new ones out of a thicker plate.

I just wanted to point out that I don't think the triangle setups provide any better articulation than the track bar systems. Iv always thought the big benifit to the triangle systems is that you can set the rear axle further back, the rancho system used the triangle behind the axle so im still not sure what the benifit of this is. It may prove to be a stronger setup but it will also prove to be expensive. Im happy with my rear track bar and the only thing I will probably do in the future is replace it with an adjustable one. Just my 2 cents.

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Old May 28, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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Having had a jeep with a triangulated set up, I will say that the flex is greatly increased vs. a trackbar set up. However, the racho setup on a jk might not be that way because it is from the rear. i personally have never seen this type of setup.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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TEV, your 2 cents is generally worth a lot more... (this time too)
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Old May 28, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by IGOFSHN
Having had a jeep with a triangulated set up, I will say that the flex is greatly increased vs. a trackbar set up. However, the racho setup on a jk might not be that way because it is from the rear. i personally have never seen this type of setup.
how exactly does a triangulated system greatly increase flex? Im not trying to say your wrong but please help me understand. The limiting factors in my mind are the shock and sway bar first, then control arms. The trackbar never limits the flex.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Actually the trackbar does limit your flex.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by IGOFSHN
Actually the trackbar does limit your flex.
lol can you explain this to me? If I took everything off the axle except for the track bar I could turn the axle completely sideways... well atleast untill it hit the body. So how does it limit the flex???
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Old May 28, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TEV
lol can you explain this to me? If I took everything off the axle except for the track bar I could turn the axle completely sideways... well atleast untill it hit the body. So how does it limit the flex???
Jack up your Jeep from the pumpking and place the frame rails on jack stands. Then, remove your wheels, sway bar links and shocks but leave your track bar on and then lower your axle until it won't go down any further. Now, disconnect your track bar and do this test again. Let the results speak for themselves.

I too run a tri-link in the rear of my TJ and have seen much better articulation on the trail. But then, that's just me

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Old May 28, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bim6180
In a couple weeks, i'll be getting my lift kit, along with the adjustable trackbars for front and rear

The question is, which one is better: Teraflex or FT. WOL did a write up on FT, and it seems like it's a good trackbar. Anybody knows the comparison between the two?

Thanks for the insight
I can't speak for the TeraFlex track bar as I have not run one but I have no doubts that it'll work just fine. As far as the Full Traction adjustable front track bar goes, all I can say is that mine works perfectly but you don't have to take my word for it. Just ask any of the dozens of people that have seen my Jeep in action on the trail. No squeaking, no binding, no problems. In fact, here's a shot of my Jeep from yesterday....



Now, I can't speak for anyone else who has been having problems with their track bar as I did not do the installtion but for me personally, the Full Traction track bar has been great. And, I should point out that this opinion comes from at least 3,000 miles of hard use and abuse on and off the trails.
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