Traction Control Freaking Out
I've had minor issues with the Steering Angle Sensor for quite some time, intermittent, usually after a hard wheeling trip or something, but fiddling with the drag link has always allowed me to dial it in and stop the issue. However, recently, it flared up out of nowhere (it was fine, parked it, came back a few days later and it was going nuts) and nothing I do to the drag link helps. The usual slamming on the brakes, cutting throttle, and generally making my life miserable for no apparent reason. It's throwing the following codes:
C123F (Steering Angle Sensor Comparative Performance)
C1240 (Steering Angle Sensor Angle Overtravel Performance)
C2205 (Steering Angle Sensor Internal)
C1219 (Steering Angle Sensor Erratic Performance)
C123B (Electronic Stability Program System Control - ESP System Control Too Long) <-- That, I assume, is the one that's disabling traction control and allowing me to actually drive again.
Now, based on all the talk about the Steering Angle Sensor up there, I'd assume that would be the most likely culprit, but given that I replaced my clock-spring within just the last couple years (and I'm not getting any other symptoms of a bad clock-spring) I wanted to post and see if anyone had any suggestions or advice before I deal with that again. The only other thing I can think of would be faulty wheel-speed sensor(s) but I don't want to start buying things without a better idea of what's needed.
As always, assistance is greatly appreciated; thanks!
C123F (Steering Angle Sensor Comparative Performance)
C1240 (Steering Angle Sensor Angle Overtravel Performance)
C2205 (Steering Angle Sensor Internal)
C1219 (Steering Angle Sensor Erratic Performance)
C123B (Electronic Stability Program System Control - ESP System Control Too Long) <-- That, I assume, is the one that's disabling traction control and allowing me to actually drive again.
Now, based on all the talk about the Steering Angle Sensor up there, I'd assume that would be the most likely culprit, but given that I replaced my clock-spring within just the last couple years (and I'm not getting any other symptoms of a bad clock-spring) I wanted to post and see if anyone had any suggestions or advice before I deal with that again. The only other thing I can think of would be faulty wheel-speed sensor(s) but I don't want to start buying things without a better idea of what's needed.
As always, assistance is greatly appreciated; thanks!
Last edited by RedRubycon; Nov 16, 2022 at 01:44 PM.
I have had ABS sensor issues in the past, and my experience is that anytime one of those is the culprit, sure as heck it's signaled by a code to that specific corner. The lack of any ABS sensor codes with your issue would really eliminate one of those from my mind. Same with faulty wiring to one of the sensors. I've seen that and it always results in a code that makes it look like the sensor itself.....since it's not able to properly deliver the signals it's sending to the computer.
I'd probably come to the same conclusion....the obvious thing being the clockspring. I don't typically like just throwing parts at it either, but I also loath dealerships. If it were my jeep, which is how I usually try to address these things, I would probably be willing to throw a clockspring at it even though it hasn't been long since you did that before. It's only my 2c. Curious to hear what others might say.
I'd probably come to the same conclusion....the obvious thing being the clockspring. I don't typically like just throwing parts at it either, but I also loath dealerships. If it were my jeep, which is how I usually try to address these things, I would probably be willing to throw a clockspring at it even though it hasn't been long since you did that before. It's only my 2c. Curious to hear what others might say.
Thanks, Resharp,
Since nobody has come forward with any other ideas, I guess I throw another clockspring at it and cross my fingers!
I double checked, and it looks like I last replaced it just about 2 years ago, which was only a few years after I first got the Jeep... given the amount of time I spend without any kind of doors or roof, I suppose all the exposure to the elements could have wrecked it in that time...
Since nobody has come forward with any other ideas, I guess I throw another clockspring at it and cross my fingers!
I double checked, and it looks like I last replaced it just about 2 years ago, which was only a few years after I first got the Jeep... given the amount of time I spend without any kind of doors or roof, I suppose all the exposure to the elements could have wrecked it in that time...
Last edited by RedRubycon; Nov 21, 2022 at 08:14 AM.
Well, a new clockspring seems to have fixed it; it was definitely caked in dirt and dust. Who knows, maybe I can get the old one cleaned up well enough to work again and have a spare? Frustrating that the Steering Angle Sensor failed without any other sign of problems with the clockspring, but guess that's one of the failure options!
You'd think those should last more than 2 years, but I chalk some of these things up to "this isn't like any other vehicle". Lot of us are using them in less-than-ideal conditions. My top is off a lot and often the interior is caked with dust. I've also been in a few downpours with no top on. Oddly the one time I had to replace the clockspring it was due to my own stupidity of not locking my steering wheel in place while swapping steering boxes. Glad it was a relatively easy fix.
Yeah, my interior is... well, filthy doesn't begin to describe it. It's really been through the wringer. I've been thinking maybe there's some way to better protect the clockspring though, as there's quite the unprotected gap between the back of the steering wheel and the steering column for dirt, debris, moisture, etc. to get in. Maybe some kind of flexible skirt like the sweeping brush that you'd attach to the bottom of a door? I'm sure somebody much smarter than me has come up with a workable solution, but might make this one last a bit longer. And like I said, a good cleaning might even restore the old one back to proper functionality, since there weren't any issues other than the steering angle sensor. Topics for another thread, though! For now I'm just glad it's working again.







