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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 05:17 AM
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Although I have not modded my JK in this area I did add a vararam intake to my 04 vette. This intake pulls outside air from the nose of the car. In the 90
degree plus weather we have now there is not much improvement but in the winter it is like a differnt car. Much improved over stock! I could see some improvement on the JK in cooler weather but since there is not much motor to work with the gains would be small. But I would take what I could get!
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by britjk
Not trying to be stupid here but - how about running a 1" rubber hose from the A/C duct to the CAI tube . Just a thought. I know it defeats the purpose of saving gas because the A/C is running - but wouldn't it run stronger with cold air?

LOL! You sound just like me!!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder this stuff all the time! I dont have an answer on why it would.....or wouldn't work- save, as you said- it'd have to have the AC running all the time My GUESS is though that its much like the 'alleged' ELECTRIC superchargers..... Fans move air---- but fans dont move air WELL when coupled with pressure/backpressure...

VERY interesting thought...............
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by britjk
Not trying to be stupid here but - how about running a 1" rubber hose from the A/C duct to the CAI tube . Just a thought. I know it defeats the purpose of saving gas because the A/C is running - but wouldn't it run stronger with cold air?
I've thought about that myself. I have the AC on anyway, so it wouldn't cost e any more gas mileage than I am already using. But, I am always told it wouldn't be a good idea because I will lower the performance because I would have the AC on, even though it is on anyway. :confused:
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Chukronos
I've thought about that myself. I have the AC on anyway, so it wouldn't cost e any more gas mileage than I am already using. But, I am always told it wouldn't be a good idea because I will lower the performance because I would have the AC on, even though it is on anyway. :confused:
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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I have Airaid, with box wrapped in high-temp almn tape (also the intake tube) to isolate some engine temp and put a small (~ 2-3" dia) hole behind/left (facing) the grill in the hard rubber (whatever it is, shield?) offset but feeding outside air into the box... seems to work well enough, but don't get too many temp extremes here in Seattle... but I have been curious about how much rain (very little I think) might be getting in there and wonder what the symptom would be while driving if too much moisture was getting there... any thoughts?

Also, CURIOUS: What would happen if a person was to place a piece of dry ice in the CAI box I wonder? Is there "too cold" ? Would it be something to do on a really hot day. If a worthy application, could a piece live long enough when wheeling?
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Hog

Also, CURIOUS: What would happen if a person was to place a piece of dry ice in the CAI box I wonder? Is there "too cold" ? Would it be something to do on a really hot day. If a worthy application, could a piece live long enough when wheeling?

That might net a cooler intake temperature, but I do think it would be detrimental to the whole ignition process.
Dry ice - Frozen CO2
Fire extinquishers (some) - CO2
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Might not be so helpful.
Plus, even if it did help, you would have to have a ton of dry ice. With all the airflow over a chunk of it, it would be gone super fast.

About the best thing for dry ice, is blowin up bottles.
Fill a 20oz bottle about 3/4 full with water, add some dry ice chunks & cap.
Run or throw away from anthing that can be hurt.
Its a good college dorm/fraternity trick, its like a cold water grenade.
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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Well... I know ol'....I mean OLD school racers used to make a coil-wrap of the fuel line to be able to be housed (one line in...lots of wraps...one line out) and would place ice or dry ice in the can holding the coil to keep the fuel at its absolute density to get more into the combustion chamber....

But on the intake side of things- I'd be fearful of the blockage/air restriction..
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by deconstructionist
THANKS VBS! I will look tomorrow when I have more light!
Anytime. When you look, you will see it's a direct shot to the intake boxes bottom half. You won't need a lot of bends or extra piping. Like I said, I believe the stock snorke will fit right there perfectly. You'll just need aprox 5 more inches of tubing and connect it to the intake box.

Good luck
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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I admire your inventiveness. This is how great ideas are thought up. I would have gone the other way, though. Literally. Instead of lowering the air filter intake, I would have turned it back towards the firewall. There is room, because I have looked at it before. You could route a new intake pipe/hose back to the firewall at the cowl area and go through the firewall right under the cowl. The cowl vent is already there, and I am sure a filter element could be made to fit under there. That cowl piece even comes off very easily. It would have the benefit of the low pressure ares at the cowl to act as cowl induction. This would effectivel raise the inlet point of the air cleaner at least a couple of inches from stock. Although it is not ram air, cowl induction has been proven more effective. Case in point: The 1970 LS6 454 Chevelle. It would require a "flat" plastic intake hose.....or you could get fancy with aluminum or even mild steel. There is actually enough room to use the stock filter, block off the stock inlet and make another pointing in the right direction. Just food for thought.
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RedneckJeep
I admire your inventiveness. This is how great ideas are thought up. I would have gone the other way, though. Literally. Instead of lowering the air filter intake, I would have turned it back towards the firewall under the cowl. The cowl vent is already there,......
I agree with you also. I looked at this area also last year. After looking at it, I didn't know how to get into that area without cutting either the hood support or the firewall. I also thought if I could get in there, I could create a low profile fiberglass scoop to sit on top of the cowl's vents(passenger side).

Definitely another good area to look into. Just find a good way into that area and you'll be good to go. I may have missed it.
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