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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RedneckJeep
The turbo is capable of putting the induction system under pressure, the air vent is not. Are you really this thick, or are you yankin my chain?
LOL, It's not me that's thick. Didn't you read/understand my post stating the increase in pressure? Or did you just skip that part?
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CIJeep
LOL, It's not me that's thick. Didn't you read/understand my post stating the increase in pressure? Or did you just skip that part?
Not at all. Standard atmospheric pressure is 14.696 PSI. There is nothing an air vent on the hood can do to increase this. That's like saying that when the wind blows 60 MPH, the atmospheric pressure increases. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, just the opposite is the case. During stormy weather, atmospheric pressure drops. Yes, there are times in a naturally aspirated engine when pressure is present, but not much. All a dedicated ram air system can do is ensure that the engine gets cool dense air and nothing more. It does not increase atmospheric pressure to the engine one iota. I don't give a damn what kind of gauge you say you put on it. It's just not possible. Dedicated cool air usually equates to more horse power, but not because of an increase in pressure. forced induction is a completely different animal altogether, and evidently one you need an education on. How many blown/turbocharged engines have you ever built? I've built quite a few. I've raced even more. I know what supercharging is. You are wrong in your assumption and you simply don't want to admit it. You can argue with yourself from here on out. You're apparently used to it.
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RedneckJeep
Not at all. Standard atmospheric pressure is 14.696 PSI. There is nothing an air vent on the hood can do to increase this. That's like saying that when the wind blows 60 MPH, the atmospheric pressure increases. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, just the opposite is the case. During stormy weather, atmospheric pressure drops. Yes, there are times in a naturally aspirated engine when pressure is present, but not much. All a dedicated ram air system can do is ensure that the engine gets cool dense air and nothing more. It does not increase atmospheric pressure to the engine one iota. I don't give a damn what kind of gauge you say you put on it. It's just not possible. Dedicated cool air usually equates to more horse power, but not because of an increase in pressure. forced induction is a completely different animal altogether, and evidently one you need an education on. How many blown/turbocharged engines have you ever built? I've built quite a few. I've raced even more. I know what supercharging is. You are wrong in your assumption and you simply don't want to admit it. You can argue with yourself from here on out. You're apparently used to it.



So you "don't give a damn about what gauge".... Now that is truly thick. Had you truly raced anything outside of a hot air supercharged bicycle then you would also know a thing of two about aerodynamics.

Here is a clue for you, and a free one too. the Jeep is a brick, the windshield is like a second stop for the air. Now...take a good look at the cowling directly in front of the windshield. Got it? Ok, that little piece of real estate there is a nice pocket of high pressure, air (compressed air for the hicks) You can do all sorts of wonderful things there with the air, like cut a hole in the firewall and duct it to the air cleaner and sealing the other side to keep the pressure in the can. Now register the pressure. This little trick was banned by NASCAR many moons ago, around '63 I believe. Evidently they didn't believe your little tirade.

I'll also be honest with you, I don't know everything.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Oh, please tell me how using fine instruments to make measurements can be called assumptions, k?

You've been quick to tell everyone what won't work so mind sharing with us what will work?
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RochesterJK
My first thought was that they were different (supercharger and a turbo) but after looking at the following site (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercharger) they say "A turbine-driven supercharger is known as a turbosupercharger or turbocharger". I guess peoples impression is that a turbo is different, but it is a type of superchager...
actually as far as i know wikipedia is all user input meaning people like us put the info on there .so i could put ,the difference between a turbo and a supercharger is the turbo blows and the supercharger sucks !!!!!and every one who reads it would take that info to the bank!!!!!!just so ya know
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