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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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wondering what brand everyone is running? i would like to purchase some so i can install them when the 3" FT lift gets installed.

pics/links would be appreciated.

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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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Some lift kits include brake lines, does the FT? I had SSBC lines on my YJ and was very happy. Also Had other SSBC products on my Ram and have always been satisfied. Haven't done this to my JK yet though.
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeyfl
wondering what brand everyone is running? i would like to purchase some so i can install them when the 3" FT lift gets installed.

pics/links would be appreciated.

tia.

-mikey
Do they realy have to be replaced with the 3" FT lift?
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by trucco
Do they realy have to be replaced with the 3" FT lift?
i dont think its a necessity... im doing it for peace of mind.

and i dont believe FT kits include brake lines.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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I have the FT 3" ultimate lift and I used Rusty's stainless steel brake lines. I don't know if its 100% required but under full articulation your stock lines are heading towards taught. The extra length ensures your not pulling, yanking or accidentally disconnecting your brake lines.

Plus, the pedal feel is much improved with the SS lines vs stock.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryanm
I have the FT 3" ultimate lift and I used Rusty's stainless steel brake lines. I don't know if its 100% required but under full articulation your stock lines are heading towards taught. The extra length ensures your not pulling, yanking or accidentally disconnecting your brake lines.

Plus, the pedal feel is much improved with the SS lines vs stock.
what length did you get?
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryanm
...Plus, the pedal feel is much improved with the SS lines vs stock.
What kind of difference in feel is there? I would have thought the fluid still travels w/roughly the same resistance and therefore would probably feel the same... Can you describe the difference in feeling? -Thanks-
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rubidonn
What kind of difference in feel is there? I would have thought the fluid still travels w/roughly the same resistance and therefore would probably feel the same... Can you describe the difference in feeling? -Thanks-
The stock rubber brake lines inflate like ballons when you press the pedal. Basically, the first half inch or so of pedal push goes mostly towards getting the brake lines to their max stretch point, before it actually starts applying serious brake pressure.

Stainless braided lines don't stretch much, so the pedal feel is more immediate w/ better feedback. Also, the standard rubber lines get MORE stretchy as they heat up, so this gets worse as your brake fluid gets hotter. This is more of a concern for road racing than 4wd vehicles, but its a nice side benefit.

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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake_Blues
The stock rubber brake lines inflate like ballons when you press the pedal. Basically, the first half inch or so of pedal push goes mostly towards getting the brake lines to their max stretch point, before it actually starts applying serious brake pressure.

Stainless braided lines don't stretch much, so the pedal feel is more immediate w/ better feedback. Also, the standard rubber lines get MORE stretchy as they heat up, so this gets worse as your brake fluid gets hotter. This is more of a concern for road racing than 4wd vehicles, but its a nice side benefit.

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That makes sense. 'E', have learned another new piece of information... learn'n a lot from you... first was front tires jumping in 4wd and now brake lines....
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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Jake_Blues aka "E" is right on with the description. I can't say that they were a great deal longer, they just have some play under max articulation now. I would guess 2-3" longer than stock. When you order from Rusty's they just ask what your lift height is and they send the appropriate length lines. For example, on a 3" lift it might only be a similar extension length, but if your doing a 6" long travel you may have to run the lines differently or around other components requiring greater length. It will all depend on your lift manufacturer and height.

For me ,the main benefit was eliminating some of the pedal travel. As E also stated, this usually becomes more apparent in racing applications but still has benefits for daily use on any vehicle.
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