Yeah Yeah, I know I'm all talk

 

all talk and wallet!

 

I think that's what I like about him

 

The talk or the wallet

 

Both silly Your always good company and once in awhile you buy me beer

 

DOKIE OAKIE

What was this tread about

 

Not to change the topic ...but I just read the other Hungry Valley thread that got closed and would like to chime in to y'all.

I too have spent my life taking special care to avoid every scratch on my vehicles and keep them bright and shiny....even with my JK. However, in the last few months (as iadventure said, after the first few pin stripes...) I have had a paradigm shift and am of the attitude that I am going to use and abuse my Jeep (maybe not as extreme as Joe!!), and that works for me...it is a little strange feeling that way, but I am good with it. HOWEVER, I totally respect other's wishes and desires to maintain the visual appeal of their rig!

It was unfortunate that some had to go through a trail which caused unwanted damage and I am sorry to those. Unfortunately we only had maps which indicated the main trails and not the lesser ones which appeared to head in the direction we wanted to go...

In response to the tread lightly comment, the ATV trails we were on were plenty wide enough, it was just the fact that the trees had grown over the trail and were hitting the sides of our Jeeps as we went by. I don't think there was any damage to them...expecially not in comparison to what they did to my fender!

Hope this helps...and clarifies some points. I don't want to start an argument...just offer some explanation...
Allan

 

Yeah, after I was deflowered in Borrego Springs, pinstripes just don't worry me all that much.

 

To Chime again after some not so happy jeepers,

All in all taking the extremes of the two posts that lay on opposite sides of this conversation and everything in-between, we need not take EVERYTHING so serious that we loss the fun.

I LOVE to take good care of my stuff and have always been known for that. I respect that not everyone wants to get scratches on their rig... that said, this was a pretty unofficial run to "check out" Hungary valley OHV. As much as at one point i was NOT enjoying being on the atv trail, I ALWAYS had the opportunity to stop, turn around (there were many small spot to do a U) and not follow everyone etc...

I am with Allan, I take care of my stuff, but like to use it too, if that means pinstripes, that means pinstripes... to each their own.

I think I have learned a few things out of this adventure and conversation.

1. good maps are a +
2. I need to remember not everyone has the same view of what they are comfortable doing with and to their Jeep.
3. good communication on how the run will be is important for me to include if I lead a run.
4. understanding and a "go with the flow" attitude is also important for me to have.
5. Dookie Doo DOES happen (that was for you RANGLEME)
6. If I'm not sure or are uncomfortable, I should TURN AROUND and don't follow the other Jeeps and then complain about damage, it doesn't go over very well.
7. Don't follow Harry, Just kidding, I couldn't resist on that one!!

All in all - Lets all learn from this and get better, let the adventures continue!
I liked wheeling with you all and any of you are welcome on runs I host.

 

Another chime here:

Would like to thank everyone for the comments on my photos makes it worth while lugging that camera and lenses around.

as for the so called ATV trail: the trail was not marked ATVs only the trail was very wide for about 1 mile then started to thin i was fortunate that me and Augie walked the trail and in 2 minutes i was out pinstripe free. alll the trails are marked for the vehicles that are allowed.

So see you all for the megameet

and hope you get the jeep fixed 08jk4door