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Old May 24, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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I just picked up a 2008 2 door rubicon with a 6 speed. I've driven manuals all my life and currently drive a Honda S2000 daily.

Taking off from a light I've stalled the wrangler about 5 or 6 times in the 2 days I've had it. To put this into perspective I've not stalled any other of my manual transmissioned vehicles once in the last 13 years! It's almost like the throttle tip-in is not consistent or something. There is definately a "dead zone" for the first little bit of the accellerator travel.

Am I the only one who had a tough time getting accustomed to the fly-by-wire throttle?
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Old May 24, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc_D
I just picked up a 2008 2 door rubicon with a 6 speed. I've driven manuals all my life and currently drive a Honda S2000 daily.

Taking off from a light I've stalled the wrangler about 5 or 6 times in the 2 days I've had it. To put this into perspective I've not stalled any other of my manual transmissioned vehicles once in the last 13 years! It's almost like the throttle tip-in is not consistent or something. There is definately a "dead zone" for the first little bit of the accellerator travel.

Am I the only one who had a tough time getting accustomed to the fly-by-wire throttle?
No, its not just you. My wife and I both had a tough time the first few days. For me it was getting used to how slowly the engine revs up and down. I think the throttle response improves once it got through its breakin cycle.... or we just got used to it....
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Old May 24, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc_D
I just picked up a 2008 2 door rubicon with a 6 speed. I've driven manuals all my life and currently drive a Honda S2000 daily.

Taking off from a light I've stalled the wrangler about 5 or 6 times in the 2 days I've had it. To put this into perspective I've not stalled any other of my manual transmissioned vehicles once in the last 13 years! It's almost like the throttle tip-in is not consistent or something. There is definately a "dead zone" for the first little bit of the accellerator travel.

Am I the only one who had a tough time getting accustomed to the fly-by-wire throttle?
No i hate it to, and iam driving the jeep now 6months and i still sometimes nearly stall it and it looks stupid when my friends are around, but i keep telling them that its the computer. When i drive my nephew tj its a different feeling and i feel much better, and i hate the esp too, thats the only downside in the jk i think and i wish there would be away where we can take out all the electronics crap and put in a normal drive by wire and everything would be perfect.
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Old May 24, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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I don't seem to have the same problems you guys do but I have been driving this thing for a year and a half. I also drive a 6 speed race car and have always had a standard. I did have a slight adjustment at first but it will come more natural the more you drive it. When upshifting I dont even need to use the clutch as my syncros work awsome. Just be gentile with the pressure on the stick and let the tranny do the work.

YMMV
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Old May 24, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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I don't seem to have the same problems you guys do but I have been driving this thing for a year and a half. I also drive a 6 speed race car and have always had a standard. I did have a slight adjustment at first but it will come more natural the more you drive it. When upshifting I dont even need to use the clutch as my syncros work awsome. Just be gentile with the pressure on the stick and let the tranny do the work.

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Its not a huge problem and mostly i drive it perfectly unless iam daydreaming or not really concentrating, i forget that i have to push my foot down more and it nearly stalls. But if iam concentrating then no way it thinks even about stalling.
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Old May 24, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Yes, it defently feels wired. I still stall mine and I have only owned one automatic trans Jeep in my life. It has a major dead spot as far as Im conserned. It SUCKS! Other then that, I love my Jeep
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Old May 24, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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It's a pain. I don't like it at all. Once it starts to stall that's it. You maybe able to delay it for a second or two, but it's going to die. Jeep should use the current calibration for 4-low and write a new one for 2 and 4 high. I have a Corvette and their is no way you would know it's drive by wire with out looking under the hood.
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Old May 24, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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yeah I have had it stall and die a few times, I think once I actually prevented it from stalling but that was a fluke versus skill.

Still, I'm pretty happy with my JK. Just takes some getting used to.
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Old May 24, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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All I can say is that there must be something wrong. I find that it is very easy to take off in the JK.
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Old May 24, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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Ive never stalled mine but my wife has.
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